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Proudly anti-American and anti-Semitic ... Turkey - the "stalwart ally" of America and Israel !

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jan 3, 2009 at 14:23

Turkey's anti-Semitic record is not much worse that its anti-American one. "Mein Kampf" has been for a long time a bestseller in Turkey. In 2003 a major synagogue was blown up in Istanbul. The Turkish-Jewish businessman Üzeyir Garih was stabbed to death on 25 August 2001 on a cemetery in Istanbul. His 14-year-old grandson Tal Herzikowitz was kidnapped by men in police uniform as a warning to Garih's family not to investigate the murder. ... Turkish 'Zeitgeist' looks quite familiar when you recall the German "Zeitgeist" of old , doesn't it?

In this context I'd like to hint at two very interesting articles on the subject. The first article "The betrayal of Turkish Jews" by Khatchig Mouradian

http://www.jewcy.com/cabal/turkish_jews

takes a glance behind the deceptive Turkish slogans of happy Jews of Turkey. "To better understand the plight of Turkish Jewry" he interviewed some leading scholars in the field.

He finds out that it was fear of Turkish terror and not free will that kept the Jews of Turkey far from politics. Small wonder therefore that Turkish Jews were as anti-Zionist as their Turkish effendis. So one must wonder why these anti-Zionist Turkish Jews fled so massively to Israel after the WWII ? Although Turkish Jews are loyal citizens, "Turkish political groups that fight bitterly on other issues find common ground in blaming Turkish Jews for the country's ills." "Today, Turkish Jews fear both Turkey's Islamists and its nationalists (...)" Out of fear "Jews in Turkey have increasingly adopted Muslim names to escape attention." Allegedly protected by International Community the Jewish community in Turkey is openly blackmailed by the Turkish government. " In an October interview with the Jerusalem Post, Turkish Foreign Minister Ali Babacan said, "All of a sudden the perception in Turkey right now is that the Jewish people, or the Jewish organizations, let's say, and the Armenian diaspora, the Armenian lobbies, are now hand-in-hand trying to defame Turkey, and trying to condemn Turkey and the Turkish people." In an interview with the Turkish newspaper Zaman, Babacan said, "We have told them [the American-Jewish leaders] that we cannot explain it to the public in Turkey if a road accident happens. We have told them that we cannot keep the Jewish people out of this." "Turkish-Jews are very much upset by the great freedom with which the Turkish authorities allow anti-Semitic views to be voiced. (...) while Turkish authorities apply the Turkish Penal Code to prohibit other forms of hate speech, they make an exception for anti-Semitism."

There is one interesting comment by a Turk from America on the article about the common Turkish expression "korkak Yahudi" that sums up the Turkish popular perception of the Jew.

" Literally translated it means "cowardly Jew." I grew up with Turkish as my first language, and I learned that phrase early in life and used it all the time as I was growing up. Of course, I didn't even know its literal meaning. When I came to America and learned English, I simply used "frady cat" as the English version. Not until I grew up and learned that there are different religions did I realize its literal meaning. I actually remember asking my dad why are Yahudis cowardly, and I'll paraphrase his answer: that's the way Jews are viewed in Turkey, because they will never fight back. You can beat them all you want, they will not fight."

The second article with the provocative title : "Why are American Jews appeasing Turkish anti-Semites? " by Joey Kurtzman http://www.jewcy.com/cabal/back_future_court_jews_new_york_appeasing_antisemites_ankara

explores the same subject. He remarks that "Khatchig shows Turkish Jews to us as a harried minority whose "loyalty" has been extorted from them in exchange for physical safety." I'd call it a form of traditional jizya. Yet the author contends that "the article doesn't at all validate the concerns of those who claim we must appease Turkish antisemites in order to protect Turkish Jews." What is more, "although the leadership of our community has thrown its weight behind the world's most successful campaign of genocide denial, I doubt they've managed even to serve the short-term interests of Turkish Jewry. And you can bet they've considerably complicated the future of that community by demonstrating to Turkey that popular antisemitic hatred is a valuable political asset." "Turkish antisemites must have been gratified that American Jewish leaders—representatives of the most empowered, integrated Jewish population in the history of the diaspora—could be so easily managed like a gaggle of korkak Yahudiler, responding to threats of antisemitic violence with desperate smiles and obsequious supplications. As the Turkish ambassador to Israel helpfully explained, so far as the Turks are concerned, a Jew is a Jew ".

One judicious commentator remarks on all of that :

"It should be clear that Foxman (and Peres) said their ridiculous statements for political reasons alone. (...) They were said simply because Turkey is Israel's only regional ally (and a powerful one at that) and Turkey made it clear to Israel that it was important to them. I doubt that either Foxman or Peres were blackmailed into his statements because of concerns for Jews in Turkey. They were blackmailed by the threat that Turkey-Israel relationships would suffer. This whole incident does show, however, how deep Turkey and Israel's alliance runs when Turkey threatens our civilians there with physical harm to achieve a third-rate political objective."

Another commentator sums it up in Cassandra's voice :

" Meanwhile, back at the headquarters of Israel's 2nd favorite ally, the Turkish authorities were busy doing what they do best: generate hypocrisy of the highest magnitude. While Jewish leaders in Israel and the U.S. are busying themselves with Genocide denial to appease their Turkish "allies", their Turkish allies are busying themselves accusing Israel of "Judaising" the Temple Mount. Now, I for one, don't know if there is any merit to this report of "Turkish experts". But talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

All I can say is, the Israelis must have a fetish for getting donkey punched! In a twisted and battered-wife-syndrome type of way, I have to admire Turkey; it is a lot more powerful and guttsy than I ever thought. They just don't give a s.. over there what anyone says; everyone else plays by the rules of diplomacy, while Turkey plays by its own rules and always wins."

Hopefully, this sinister and deceptive game is soon over and the dupes will get smarter imposing their own rules on the perfidious Turk. They have still enough force to turn the table on him.

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Close GitMo! [64 words]PDMJan 14, 2009 05:04148001
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Well, that didn't take long [219 words]JeffJan 8, 2009 22:30147523
Jeff's statement "that did not take long" [15 words]w. June PedigoJan 9, 2009 22:06147523
Dr. pipes has brought up excellent points about Obama's Middle East Policy. [262 words]Anne A.Jan 7, 2009 11:10147292
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...My urge, Become Muslim, and lets share the bounties of Allah together [116 words]Ibn MasudJan 3, 2009 22:44146757
Ibn Masud,become a Muslim [36 words]InfidelJan 4, 2009 23:08146757
2"...My urge, Become Muslim, and lets share the bounties of Allah together..." My advice to you [568 words]IanusJan 5, 2009 08:51146757
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Ianus: Ibn Masud is doing his Islamic duty [41 words]PlatoJan 5, 2009 20:33146757
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Ianus, Plato, Dennis: Don't make a mockery of a genuine offer. [59 words]Ibn MasudJan 7, 2009 00:59146757
1Killers urgently needed! Huris and swag guaranteed! For details contact Allah ! [166 words]IanusJan 7, 2009 16:00146757
Ibn Masud: Keep up the good work. Allah is waiting with open arms for you. [306 words]PlatoJan 7, 2009 21:01146757
Ibn Masud's "invitation to Islam" is a veiled prelude to violent jihad, according to sharia. [673 words]
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Doc TaterJan 8, 2009 12:30146757
Blame me , blame my dog ! [220 words]IanusJan 8, 2009 15:11146757
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God (or in Arabic, Allah) still loves of all of you [146 words]TravisJan 9, 2009 04:24146757
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Doc Tater and all of likes: Don't use scare tactics. [86 words]Ibn MasudJan 13, 2009 01:47146757
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Ibn Masud, information requested [16 words]InfidelJan 14, 2009 00:54146757
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FAITH that someday there would be a savior [50 words]jennifer solisJan 14, 2009 23:18146335
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I think we are mostly of the same line of thought ... [238 words]kmanJan 5, 2009 23:06146304
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re Obama [243 words]Gabby (Australia)Dec 30, 2008 11:30146298
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The "world" just jumped joyously at Obama being elected as president here. [115 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:02146295
Re: Insight into Obama [917 words]Tess (Australia)Dec 30, 2008 09:47146281
Obama's political movement was born in the midst of the most corrupt state in our country... [79 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:11146281
The most anti-American country [469 words]IanusDec 30, 2008 09:21146279
re....The most anti-American country [51 words]OzTurkDec 30, 2008 17:48146279
In short, Turk = Islam, samo, samo. [6 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 19:15146279
talking without knowing [553 words]yasemin erkutDec 31, 2008 18:43146279
1"The stalwart ally" nuking the US ... [284 words]IanusJan 1, 2009 06:49146279
Turkish lies taken for reality [154 words]IanusJan 1, 2009 07:06146279
1"Talking without knowing" - A good title ... as long as you're the talker [1935 words]IanusJan 1, 2009 08:32146279
You keep using word "see", when clearly you don't ... [192 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 02:46146279
Re.. Ianus [150 words]OzTurkJan 2, 2009 05:52146279
Truly, it is the same rubber stamp with a modicum of Turkish variation ... [189 words]kmanJan 2, 2009 16:22146279
2"How sweet to be a Turk" ...Yes, but why does "Turk" mean in Oslamlica "barbarian" then ? [972 words]IanusJan 3, 2009 07:39146279
re...How sweet to be a Turk..Yes but why does "Turk" mean in Osmanlica "barbarian" then ? [326 words]OzTurkJan 4, 2009 03:02146279
Why not help some rabbits become cannibals ? [465 words]IanusJan 4, 2009 15:35146279
Yasemin: Be careful of Isreal [43 words]UnoJan 5, 2009 00:44146279
3"Turk" means in Osmanlica "barbarian". In many European languages it means the same. [1365 words]IanusJan 5, 2009 10:24146279
Thank God there is a Turkey State [443 words]AngelJan 13, 2009 23:03146279
Thank Allah there is a Turkey State [542 words]IanusJan 17, 2009 16:08146279
Only Dead Fish Go With the Stream [274 words]Prof. Paul EidelbergDec 30, 2008 08:47146275
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Kman: Quran teaches Compassion, Tolerance and Charity [138 words]Ibn MasudJan 7, 2009 19:22146275
I have read far more history than you could ever dream of ... [482 words]kmanJan 8, 2009 17:07146275
"Kill, rob and enslave the kafirs!" ...Yes, it's true ... but you know..."Quran teaches Compassion, Tolerance and Charity"! [602 words]IanusJan 9, 2009 15:50146275
Ibn Masud: Count the atrocities suffered by Muslims under Muslims [539 words]PlatoJan 9, 2009 22:06146275
Ianus, Ianus, quit referring them to Quran ... they're confused enough!! [23 words]kmanJan 10, 2009 19:14146275
The quran [128 words]IanusJan 12, 2009 14:32146275
I think it starts at birth ... [131 words]kmanJan 12, 2009 18:49146275
Why muslims do not say a word about Darfur case? [66 words]AngelJan 14, 2009 00:01146275
Children for Allah's jihad ... - Our humanistic culture hinders us to understand the Moslem psychopathy. [604 words]IanusJan 14, 2009 09:30146275
Greetings Ianus! [177 words]kmanJan 14, 2009 19:23146275
Islam is committing genocide all over the globe - wherever Islam rules [12 words]kmanJan 14, 2009 19:52146275
There are many ways to enter Islam but no legal way to exit it. [918 words]IanusJan 17, 2009 15:22146275
Always a pleasure to hear from you "Ianus"! [726 words]kmanJan 20, 2009 19:18146275
2Contributing to wrong beliefs [2272 words]IanusJan 21, 2009 17:29146275
I take no offense at anything you say,"Ianus", mainly because I used just about all those words at one time, too. [728 words]kmanJan 21, 2009 22:38146275
A short reply to kman [400 words]IanusJan 24, 2009 12:14146275
Ianus and Kman, let us focus on shared issues please! [391 words]saraJan 25, 2009 19:41146275
I figured you were headed in this direction eventually, but thanks for listening ... [102 words]kmanJan 26, 2009 23:11146275
The real truth [27 words]MostafaNov 24, 2012 13:11146275
1The unreal truth or "It's safe to burn the hadiths! Mahometans only riot when Qurans are being burnt". [145 words]IanusNov 27, 2012 01:46146275
Are the following assumptions and thinking naive? [129 words]SinghaDec 30, 2008 05:28146251
I think trying to "talk" with Iran is only playing their delay game... [286 words]kmanDec 30, 2008 18:30146251
Pakistan and Israel [533 words]SinghaJan 9, 2009 09:47146251
You are very well informed ... [125 words]kmanJan 9, 2009 21:15146251

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