re :kr and others,TRINITY in the BIBLE

Submitted by true believer (India), May 26, 2006 at 11:27

Judging by your post I am sure that you have never read the Bible in your life. Those who have studied the Bible, both Old and the New Testament will surely understand what I write. For those of whom who are not aware of the books of the bible, Exodus and Psalms are a part of the Jewish holy scriptures and predate the coming of Jesus into this world. Exodus belongs to the time of Moses ( Moosa ) while Psalms were songs written by King David ( Dawood ) of Israel ( Shir'at Daveed for the Jews).

Psalm 45:6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;
A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
Psalm 45:7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;
Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You
With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

Psalms 110:1 The LORD says to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet."

Matthew 21:41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
Matthew 21:42"What do you think about the Christ? Whose son is he?"
"The son of David," they replied.
Matthew 21:43 He said to them, "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord'? For he says,
Matthew 21:44" 'The Lord said to my Lord:
"Sit at my right hand
until I make your enemies
a footstool for your feet." '
Matthew 21:45 If then David calls him 'Lord,' how can he be his son?"
Matthew 21:46 No one could say a word in reply, and from that day on no one dared to ask him any more questions.

Those of youwho have read the Bible will be able to answer this question asked by Jesus "How is it then that David, speaking by the Spirit, calls him 'Lord' ?

I also qoute some other verses from the Bible

John 1:17 For the law was given through Moses, but grace and truth came through Jesus Christ.
John 1:18 No one has seen God at any time. The only begotten Son, who is in the bosom of the Father, He has declared Him.

Exodus 30:13 Then Moses said to God, "Indeed, when I come to the children of Israel and say to them, ‘The God of your fathers has sent me to you,' and they say to me, ‘What is His name?' what shall I say to them?"
Exodus 30:14 And God said to Moses, "I AM WHO I AM." And He said, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you.'"
Exodus 30:15 Moreover God said to Moses, "Thus you shall say to the children of Israel: ‘The LORD God of your fathers, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob, has sent me to you. This is My name forever, and this is My memorial to all generations.'

John 8:54 Jesus answered, "If I honor Myself, My honor is nothing. It is My Father who honors Me, of whom you say that He is your God.
John 8:55 Yet you have not known Him, but I know Him. And if I say, ‘I do not know Him,' I shall be a liar like you; but I do know Him and keep His word.
John 8:56 Your father Abraham rejoiced to see My day, and he saw it and was glad."
John 8:57 Then the Jews said to Him, "You are not yet fifty years old, and have You seen Abraham?"
John 8:58 Jesus said to them, "Most assuredly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM."

Verses from the Holy Bible stating that Father is God

John 6:27 Do not labor for the food which perishes, but for the food which endures to everlasting life, which the Son of Man will give you, because God the Father has set His seal on Him."

Romans 1:7 To all who are in Rome, beloved of God, called to be saints:
Grace to you and peace from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.

I Peter 1:1Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ,
To the pilgrims of the Dispersion in Pontus, Galatia, Cappadocia, Asia, and Bithynia,
I Peter 1:2 elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ:
Grace to you and peace be multiplied.

Verses from the Holy Bible stating that the Son (Jesus) is God

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth

Romans 9:4 who are Israelites, to whom pertain the adoption, the glory, the covenants, the giving of the law, the service of God, and the promises;
Romans 9:5 of whom are the fathers and from whom, according to the flesh, Christ came, who is over all, the eternally blessed God. Amen.

Colossians 2:8 Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.
Colossians 2:9 For in Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily;

Psalm 45:6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever;A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
Psalm 45:7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness;Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You with the oil of gladness more than Your companions

I John 5:20 And we know that the Son of God has come and has given us an understanding, that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life

Verses from the Holy Bible stating that the Holy Spirit is God

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may abide with you forever
John 14:17 the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you.

Mark 3:28 [Jesus said]"Assuredly, I say to you, all sins will be forgiven the sons of men, and whatever blasphemies they may utter; 29 but he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation"

Acts 5:3 But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit and keep back part of the price of the land for yourself?
Acts 5:4 While it remained, was it not your own? And after it was sold, was it not in your own control? Why have you conceived this thing in your heart? You have not lied to men but to God."
Acts 5:5 Then Ananias, hearing these words, fell down and breathed his last. So great fear came upon all those who heard these things.

I Corinthians 3:16 Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?

Verses in the Holy Bible pertaining to Trinity

Matthew 28:18 And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth.
Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

II Corinthians 13:14 The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Spirit be with you all. Amen

John 10:30 I and the Father are one."

Teachings of Jesus regarding Sabbath

It was forbidden by the Law of Moses to work on the Sabbath. The Pharisees and the Jewish teachers of law were trying to use this as an excuse to blame Jesus for having broken the sabbath.

Mark 2:23 Now it happened that He went through the grainfields on the Sabbath; and as they went His disciples began to pluck the heads of grain.
Mark 2:24 And the Pharisees said to Him, "Look, why do they do what is not lawful on the Sabbath?"
Mark 2:25 But He said to them, "Have you never read what David did when he was in need and hungry, he and those with him:
Mark 2:26 how he went into the house of God in the days of Abiathar the high priest, and ate the showbread, which is not lawful to eat except for the priests, and also gave some to those who were with him?"
Mark 2:27 And He said to them, "The Sabbath was made for man, and not man for the Sabbath.
Mark 2:28 Therefore the Son of Man [Jesus] is also Lord of the Sabbath."

Matthew 12:9 Now when He had departed from there, He went into their synagogue.
Matthew 12:10 And behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. And they asked Him, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath? so that they might accuse Him.
Matthew 12:11 Then He said to them, "What man is there among you who has one sheep, and if it falls into a pit on the Sabbath, will not lay hold of it and lift it out?
Matthew 12:12 Of how much more value then is a man than a sheep? Therefore it is lawful to do good on the Sabbath."
Matthew 12:13 Then He said to the man, "Stretch out your hand." And he stretched it out, and it was restored as whole as the other.

I have quoted these verses from the NKJV English Bible. I wont't need to give any URLs or supporting posts, the Word of God is sufficient enough to prove my point. Read the Bible carefully instead of pliagarising from some dubious websites authored and maintained by people whose only aim in life seems to be Christ bashing. The content authors of these websites have never read the bible with the right intentions or tried to understand the Bible properly. If you don't have the time to do this, atleast go through the Bible verses that I have quoted above.

Regarding Rome as the center and origin of Christianity,

There were five main centres of early Christianity.

1. Alexandria, in Egypt
2. Antioch , in Turkey
3. Constantinople (today's Instanbul),Turkey
4. Yerusalem , in Israel
5. Rome

The bishops of these five centres were called Patriarchs. The Patriarch of Rome had primacy over all other patriarchs because Peter the first patriarch of Rome (and not Paul as it is often mistaken) was the rock on which Jesus said that He would build the church. Christianity got wiped out in Antioch and Constantinople got wiped out after the fall of the Byzantine empire to moslems. After the Armenian genocide the patriarch of Antioch was forced to flee to Iraq and then to Damascus in Syria to avoid persecution where he sits at present. Moran Mor Ignatios Zakka Iwas II is the current Patriarch of Antioch and all east (Syriac Orthodox Church) . St Mark had preached in Egypt and Alexandria is still called as the "holy see" of St Mark, pope Shenouda is the patriarch of Alexandria (Coptic church). Christianity died in Egypt and Jerusalem after the rise of Islam, but survived and spread in Rome and all throughout Europe. This led to a misconception that Rome was where Christianity originated.

In the name of the Father , Son and the Holy Ghost.

- Francis

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