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Submitted by Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemi (United States), Oct 10, 2009 at 20:12

For generations my folk have watched empires and nations rise and fall and there always seems to be a pattern that they all follow. They begin small and semmingly insignificant and for a time they merely subsist. But if by chance they have the good fortune they aquire the resources to prosper to any degree they begin to grow in numbers and as these numbes expand they begin to seek and aquire more land to feed their growing population. As the population expands tribal government changes from local chieftans to confederations of different groups within the whole.These become political parties representing the various different interests within the whole. All the while the central idea of a common identity is maintained through the use of a comon language and world view defended by a priesthood of the tribal god or gods. The society divides itself into specialized groupings or classes according to function within the whole. The priestly class, the ruling class, the warrior class, the artizan class and the agricultural class. The priestly class is the mind and soul of the society. It is they who are responsibility for maintaining the integrity of the society. They maintain the culturlal continuum through ritual both public and private, keep alive the mythology of a common identity within the whole through telling and retelling of stories and of the common past of great men and heros, of battles and defeats of enemies and conquests and wealth and prosperity. They are the driving engine of the society and the glue which holds it together.

The ruling class is the executive class. the class responsible for carrying out and fulfiling the idea/ideal of the priestly class. Theirs is the responsibility for the "HOW TO" of the operation. They enforce the laws and maintain order within the whole. The warrior class is the active arm of the ruling class. It is the responsibility of the warrior class to carry out the wishes of the ruling calss.

Next we have the artizan class. Here we have the blacksmith, the carpenter, the stone mason, the baker and all of those other skills necessary for providing for the non agricultural requirements of the society. At the base and foundation we have the class upon which the whole rests and depends for its existence, the agricultural class. It is the agricultural class and the success of its endeavour which brings about the growth and expansion of the society and provides the opportunity for the evolution of the society as a whole.

From its inception a society is an organic whole. A seperate and self conscious entity distinct in its expressions and history. As the society grows and expands customs change to meet the requirements of the moment and the society evolves different ideas of internal governance. The successof the society depends entirely upon its internal integrity and consistency. Corruption at any level erodes the internal integrity of the society and gives rise to all those social ills with we are all too familiar in our present world.

A society, like all living organisms, must eat. This simple fact is responsible for all of the conflicts in history. When a society grows beyond a certain size in terms of population it must expand its territory to provide the neceessary resource for its expanding population. It is at this point that it will come into conflict with other parallel socities seeking the same objectives. Conflicts may resolve themselves peacefully by the melding of different societies into a greater whole or they may be resolved through war and conquest and the subduing of the weaker by the stronger. Those societies which opt for war and conquest must of necessity develope a militaristic mentality and herein lies the seed of the imperialistic mentality.

Imperialism by its very nature is oppressive. It is the expression of a self centered and narcisistic mind taken to extremes. It represents a mind that is fearful and suspicious of the world about hating of anything that is not itself. It has one objective, to devour anything and everything in its path and to subsume all within its self. It is implacable in its nature and expressions. It will not tolerate dissent within its self. It does not recognise the individual as legitimate and seeks to erase all expressions of individuality and create a robotic mentality in all its constituent population. It is incapable of growth and of evolving. It seeks a status quo that is stagnant and unchanging and herein is the seed of its ultimate demise.

When a population grows beyond a certain point in terms of numbers it reaches which might be called a critical mass. Beyond this point fractures appear. The society looses its internal integrity and internal conflicts and inconsistencies develope which cannot be resolved by fiat. It is at this point that the society begins to disintegrate. At this point secondary or subsocieties appear as self governing entities within the greater whole. Thus do colonies become states within the greater nation. It is at this point that the imperialist mind shows its weakest hand. It is also at this point that it is most dangerous because in a desperate bid to maintain the status quo it will resort to the suppression of disent by the use of force thereby exacerbating its problems. It is at this point that revolutions occur and the newly formed states bid for independence. Such actons are rarely peaceful.

This is the situation we have today in our world. In the last century we witnessed the death of empires and the weak attempt to recreate the empires of the past expressed in the form of Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. The stamp of that inperialist legacy has been taken up in our present day by the nations of Islam and they must be defeated at all costs.

Imperialism, no matter what cloak it chooses in order to legitimize itself, is the enemy of all humanity and the enemy of G-D

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1What's in it for Israel? [452 words]Michael SJun 14, 2016 07:55229992
JORDAN IS THE PALESTINIAN STATE [206 words]Ilene RichmanJun 25, 2010 09:35174813
What the heck is a terrorist organization doing on the UN Security Council [48 words]Adam EylatOct 18, 2009 08:59163204
Reason to Cheer Rescinded for Lack of Creditable Momentum for Peace [253 words]M. ToveyOct 19, 2009 11:59163204
Arabs and Muslims [79 words]JimmyDaGeekOct 18, 2009 08:05163202
What about Iran? [110 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
NikolajOct 11, 2009 11:38162945
Reason for More Cheers - Anyone? [404 words]M. ToveyOct 9, 2009 13:50162858
Response to M. Tovey [86 words]ArlindaOct 18, 2009 14:00162858
Peace Comes Not from a Golden Idol of a Wanton World - But From a World that Seeks True Peace From Israel [368 words]M. ToveyOct 19, 2009 14:29162858
No Cheer for Obama's Foreign Policy. [17 words]Gavin DemboOct 9, 2009 10:02162834
One Cheer for Obama's Foreign Policy [176 words]Burt GoldsteinOct 7, 2009 13:50162746
THE ONLY FOUNDATION FOR DEMOCRACY [361 words]Susan BrowneOct 9, 2009 09:44162746
Do the Palestinians need to be defeated? [256 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Susan BrowneOct 7, 2009 10:38162734
Obamas' policy get one hand clap. it is a good start [109 words]Phil GreendOct 5, 2009 23:24162663
Long term memory loss. [120 words]LynnSep 29, 2009 09:34162301
Go to Egypt then [30 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiSep 30, 2009 00:38162301
Map Quest [11 words]LynnSep 30, 2009 19:08162301
Read the book of exodus [11 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiOct 1, 2009 00:47162301
rubbish! [49 words]kid berthaOct 2, 2009 12:07162301
I stand corrected [40 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiOct 4, 2009 03:46162301
The departure of the downtrodden, [6 words]LynnOct 4, 2009 12:28162301
Yes.... [92 words]kid berthaOct 5, 2009 09:38162301
The Israelites [141 words]LynnOct 6, 2009 10:19162301
Read the Book of the Beginnings - of the Promise to Abraham [171 words]M. ToveyOct 6, 2009 19:29162301
I agree [77 words]kid berthaOct 7, 2009 11:36162301
Naw! Mr. Al-Habsi, you are wrong! [130 words]Susan BrowneOct 9, 2009 10:39162301
Hey Abdulkarim [28 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 9, 2009 21:18162301
And go where exacteky [42 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiOct 14, 2009 10:02162301
Nazis??? Which ones are you talking about? Haj Mohammed Amin alHusseini? [54 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 15, 2009 18:22162301
Short term memory loss [89 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiSep 27, 2009 09:58162183
This definitely justifies rockets and suicide bombs [26 words]pdmSep 28, 2009 14:59162183
Not Exactly a Huge Accomplishment, Ya Sayyed AbdulKarim [84 words]AlexSep 28, 2009 19:04162183
why dont you pass a resolution welcoming Jewish people back to Mecca/Medinah [39 words]HarrySep 29, 2009 15:14162183
Palestinian oppression by power hungry Arab and Iranian Jew Haters [81 words]ClaireSep 29, 2009 21:45162183
No it does not justify it [29 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiSep 30, 2009 00:40162183
So what will be a huge accomplishment? [28 words]Abdulkarim Al-HabsiSep 30, 2009 00:45162183
Response [42 words]AlexSep 30, 2009 23:33162183
Horrible occupation [45 words]pdmOct 2, 2009 11:54162183
Jewish People be allowed back to Mecca/Medinah [56 words]jamesOct 13, 2009 04:44162183
validity of the claim [286 words]the Grand Infidel of KafiristanOct 14, 2009 17:02162183
The only thing Islam understands is [12 words]Sylvia ScottSep 27, 2009 03:20162175
Another circle within circles. [200 words]LynnSep 24, 2009 08:49162013
Dr Pipes analysis is correct [661 words]Amitabh TripathiSep 24, 2009 03:20162003
Israel's nuclear capability [104 words]pdmSep 22, 2009 11:41161910
King Ibn Saud explains the relationship between the Jewish people and mohammedans [258 words]pdmSep 22, 2009 11:30161907
Only the Israelis [124 words]Arlinda DeAngelisSep 20, 2009 13:14161789
I've changed my mind [27 words]Peter HerzSep 20, 2009 10:03161782
the iranians were right [25 words]lionSep 19, 2009 09:00161756
Lyin' lion [48 words]portuguesamericanoSep 20, 2009 12:07161756
Dr. Pipes, Your Article Leaves an Important Question Unanswered [129 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Aymenn JawadSep 19, 2009 06:09161754
An Israeli and Saudi in a Mens Room [215 words]Jay1Sep 18, 2009 23:29161748
Let the iranians launch an attack [55 words]pdmSep 22, 2009 11:34161748
Something Missing [34 words]Peter HerzSep 18, 2009 05:41161720
Real Need for Dramatic Change in American Administration's Policy Towards Israel [218 words]M. ToveySep 17, 2009 19:13161709
One Cheer for Obama's Foreign Policy [81 words]AnneSep 16, 2009 23:41161666
Obama keeps his mouth shut when there is a call to fight for the rights of Jews and Israel. [262 words]batya daganSep 16, 2009 23:20161664
One Cheer, but Don't Take Another Bow! [67 words]AlexSep 16, 2009 18:13161651
One Cheer for Obama's Foreign Policy [87 words]Kenneth S. PerlmanSep 16, 2009 18:01161650
What Price for Peace - Freedom? [563 words]M. ToveySep 16, 2009 12:40161631
How does even the one cheer part make any sense for Israel? the deal is your kids can't build a house when they grow up, but you'll be able to get a tourist visa to Bahrain [29 words]P BergSep 16, 2009 11:18161625
trickle-up quiet [180 words]HarrySep 16, 2009 10:41161621
Missed the Boat [311 words]Edward HalperSep 16, 2009 10:33161620
Bravo [119 words]attaturkSep 16, 2009 08:58161617
This is a spot of straw-clutching methinks [160 words]Paul in EnglandSep 16, 2009 08:40161614
good point, but i disagree [96 words]LionSep 16, 2009 02:13161601
Is Pipes going soft? [144 words]LionSep 16, 2009 02:12161600
Arab states will never agree to negotiate with Israel. [94 words]Ben ZalmanSep 16, 2009 00:58161598
The only real solution [386 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 10, 2009 15:58161598
Dreamland [90 words]Ralph C. Whaley MDSep 15, 2009 21:35161585
april 4th 2006 HOW ISRAEL CAN WIN [234 words]JACQUES HADIDASep 15, 2009 21:06161584
Hope springs... [51 words]Doug CorriganSep 15, 2009 20:15161582
The real debate - where is it? [146 words]G.VishvasSep 15, 2009 19:53161579
One Cheer for Obama's Foreign Policy [65 words]steven LSep 15, 2009 18:44161575
No cheers for Obama's foreign policy. [60 words]M.D.Sep 15, 2009 18:07161570
A three state solution [258 words]jerry krasnowSep 15, 2009 17:39161568
1MD and Krasnow are both right [362 words]Abu NudnikSep 16, 2009 01:59161568
Why are 57 Muslims countries against a single secular Jewish country ? [66 words]HarrySep 18, 2009 14:18161568
Response to Harry [180 words]ArlindaSep 21, 2009 21:51161568
The nature of the beast [56 words]donvanSep 23, 2009 21:52161568
To Arlinda and Donovan [1001 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 10, 2009 20:12161568
so what... [46 words]donvanOct 12, 2009 19:03161568
To Donvan-- That's precisely my point [153 words]Seamus Dafydd Dives MacNemiOct 14, 2009 19:29161568
The U.S. not merely a Nation State. [106 words]LynnOct 16, 2009 08:05161568
so true... [117 words]donvanOct 17, 2009 20:52161568

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