The Qur'an and violence

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 10, 2010 at 15:52

Hi Ann

>I agree, Islam will never be able to erase the Image of Violence and Deception and the Terrorism of 9/11! The Radicals will justify any means that they can use to take out Jews and Infidels.

Very true and it makes you wonder that it must be the 72 virgins or in the case of Mohamed Atta who had no use for virgins must be Allah's boys that are supposed to please the likes of Atta

>The Prophet Muhammed says the greatest Jihad is to speak the truth in front of a tyrant ruler, which in the Quaran is Qital or Armed struggle,

Qital means fighting

>or martyrdom....

It means istishhad

>(Nothing has changed about seeking a false peace.....they will deceive everyone and promise the moon.....but the outcome will eventually be the same. ) Now they want the Mosque at Ground Zero to proclaim Victory.

True

>The President Barack Hussein Obama addressed the Islamic World from Cairo on June 4, 2009. He said, " As the Holy Koran tells us, "Be conscious of God and speak the truth . Sura 9:119. If you look at Sura 9 where this phrase comes from you will see it contains the most violent and intolerant exhortations in all of the Koran.

Did you mean Q9:111 which is really a violent verse?

>The problem is that the original Arabic text of Surah 9:119 says absolutely nothing about speaking the truth.

Q9:119 says

ya ayuha al-ladhina aamanu ittaqu allah wa kunu ma3a al-sadiqeen

which i would translate as

o you believers be fearful of allah and be with (read as among) those that are truthuful

>The word speaking is nowhere in the text.

True the word seaking means yaqulu

>If Obama or his mideast advisors and speechwriters had bothered to read this verse in context which promises believers paradise in exchange for their killing or being killed......These verses are specifically about fighting Infidels.

It is very true for the violent Q9;111

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