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All that glitters is not goldReader comment on item: Twenty Years of Illusion about Islamism Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Jun 8, 2012 at 16:40 scottindallas writes "Islam only means something in how it is expressed. I have friends who are converts, they were strict Baptists, they're strict Muslims. More liberal converts, stay liberal. People come to the faith, people express the faith. As one friend says, Islam is hidden from the West and the world by a thick veil of Muslims." It sounds so good that ,frankly, I doubt it might be true. Maybe you have seen some Moslem atheists behind that veil? For example, do your "strict Muslims" read a different Quran from your "liberal converts"? Do they have a different story of Mahomet? Do they have an Islam without Allah, jihad and shariah ? I'd love to learn that.but mark it! In case they don't , your sweet story is at best too good to be true and a worst it is an intentional lie. > Islam has a liberal tradition, and, those of you so concerned, should learn about the liberal aspects of Islam and encourage that. Ask them about those traditions. Some, many don't even know. Just as most faithful are most as schooled as they should be. But, neither are they schooled in the elements you fear. < I have never heard about any "liberal Islam". But I guess it is an Islam that uses a Quran where all verses of hatred and war against kafirs are deleted; where a bloody record of Mahomet's crimes and lies is exposed and a 1400 year-long history of unprovoked Moslem aggressions and genocides against us kafirs is taught in full without any circumlocutions and blaming the victims for their suffering at the Moslem hands . In case I am wrong I'd like to be corrected by you. But please don't think that more disinformation and myth-making on your part will be welcome.Only hard facts please ! > Only by appealing to what we have in common, humanity and human and civil rights will we advance. But, let's be sure we're willing to extend to them the same rights we'd ask for ourselves.< As a proud kafir I have nothing in common with Moslems. And more importantly I don't want to be made a fool either by them or by their double-tongued apologists like you. The Moslems are here not to advance anything, but to make everything as regressive,dysfunctional and unworth living for as they have more than successfully made in their Oriental home - the hell they are supposedly escaping to recreate it everywhere. They have destroyed Eastern christianity and they are in the West to destroy the West , not to extend any mythical rights to kafirs like me. Even if you can't see that , please don't insist on my remaining as blind and ignorant as you are. I don't believe that ignorance is any bliss whatsoever and I do prefer the harshest truth to the most pleasing and opportunist lie !
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