Exposing lies and fabrications and ignorance

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 13, 2013 at 18:31

Our dear Treitze is back for more

>What is the purpose of this post?

What do you think?

I am seeking some more information on the Alawi religion that cannot be found in the books available, especially concerning a few contradictions I found while reading those books.

No you are not what you will be getting here is what we kuffar call an anecdotal opinion now do you understand that much?

What this has to do with Islam in general, flying horses,

You crossed the boundaries of "I the lost tablighee Treize want to know v. polemics" because when you did ask him is the poster a woman and if a woman would want to be an Alawite and all I did is I paraphrased what you wrote and used Islamic claims as in the case of your so called prophet flying on a winged horse so did he fly on a winged horse you tell me and your so called Allah telling you to beat your wife or wives so do you beat your wife or wives our dear Treitze the lost tablihgee?

>wannabe Arab Pakistani Urdu speakers or whatever I do not understand.

Ahl e Nur is Pakistani Arabic and no Alawi is sane mind would use Pakistani Arabic because they speak Arabic

>Some people have been very helpful, unlike you.

Really? who are they? why the lies and delusions you tell me?

>What are you trying to do?

It is easy expose you as no more than someone who is interested in polemics and doing his little da3wa right?

>Spread hatred towards muslims in general?

Really? where did I do that? And is this the crock called Islamopohobia? If so where can I sign in? But wait you are sir an Alawito-phobe now do you get it? Shame on you

>Or are you a pissed off Alawi hating the fact so many things about you are common knowledge these days?

Oh playing a little tabib nafsi? It does not work with me and if being an Alawite would drive you and your so called Allah out of your mind where can i sign in?

Oh the Arabic but you can ask your Mullah to translate it for you

>I guess the former considering your username.

What user name? I see you cannot prove me wrong right? So what is with the winged horse aka al-Buraq? and do you beat your wife?

As for Kurds... Lyde, a missionary who lived among them for 6 years wrote in this 19th century book that a certain Alawi tribe had Kurdish roots and as for Turks:

So? and so your likes whose ancestors were Hindus so what?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abu_Qubays#Ottoman_era

The modern day Alawi group that is called Qaratila are of Turkish background appearantly.

And?

The book by Bar-Asher and Kofsky uses the name 'Ahl-e Nur' which is latinised Arabic for people or light.

It is Pakistani Arabic and no more

I did not make this stuff up. It refers to the people who were once creatures (emanations of the divine even) in the divine world of light, which is an essential part of Alawi cosmology.

So? your so called prophet claimed that an Arabian deity spoke to him via an angel and Allah says that the earth is flat and that the sun and the moon orbit the stationary earth does that make sense to you you tell me?

I seek not to ridiculise their faith,

But you did

just to discuss some of their doctrines in a serious way purely out of interest. If you are not capable of doing so then this is a shame.

The shame is on you

Arabs in general are a cultural group, I am fully aware of their very diverse genetic background, but thanks for the reminder.

Oh that you are a wannabe Arab? or that islam is the religion of the Arabs only?

So how do you support yourself our dear Treize? Let me guess kuffar in Holland pay the cost of your social benefits right?

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