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Submitted by SAKOVKT (United States), Dec 19, 2015 at 11:55

Continually condemning the Fascist Movement as nothing but evil blinds us to certain useful aspects of our current dilemma.

The view from today might better be that 19th Century Industrialization produced a disgruntled, urbanized proletariat which became the politically subversive Bolshevik Movement.

Fascists challenged this, offering a cult of nationalism and military virtue against Marx's crass material-economic cult of envy. Fascists also continued the challenge to French and British global and continental hegemony which precipitated both suicidal world wars and finally destroyed the European empires.

Today, Europe is being overrun by its former subjects, America being the first (during the wars) as usually happens at imperial collapse.

The Fascist cult of blood and race was to replace Christianity. This did well against Bolshevikisms' envy and the Christianity of the capitalist regimes which had been steadily declining since the Reformation.

Europe, today, is not Fascist or Communist, imperial or monarchist.

It is American Progressive.

European multi-culturalism is basically American Desegregation. Deficit spending, de-militarization, subsidized social leveling and affluence are all on the hedonistic American Progressive model : gov't owes the people, rather than the other way around. No pleasure is to be denied. No discipline enforced. Politicians are elected on what they offer, never upon what as rulers they demand. Yet, they are rulers. Europe has had poor leaders but never suffered the fools as America also does, today.

During inter-war Europe, there was a lively debate about the emerging industrial economy. Planned economies proposed to limit the requirement for industrial workers by limiting products. Why enslave ever more workers into making 12 kinds of toothpaste when one would do? This is the Bernie Sanders argument and the path the USSR took to its own demise.

"Fordism" or "Americanism" proposed a free market Consumer regulated economy. If it sold, it was worth making, no matter what. Criticism was that it would exacerbate economic disparity while spoiling an increasingly decadent society visa vie the Roaring '20s. Today, we have Miley Cyrus and a 21 trillion dollar deficit.

Fascism took a middle path, a regulated Consumer economy, designed to eliminate class distinctions while keeping wages low in order to avoid inflation and manage morality which was largely traditional. This worked at the time but is nothing practicable, today, since the Consumer Economy triumphed with the re-unification of East and West Germany. Golden Dawn is therefore doomed.

The criticisms of the Consumer Economy, however, are proving correct. The West is more decadent, crass, vulgar and irreligious than it has ever been. Despite unprecedented material abundance and prolonged peace and prosperity, it has never been more unhappy.

"Black Lives Matter" or "Occupy" have no objective other than to express undefined but palpable dissatisfaction. This is the fractionalization typical of democratic demise and a return to authority and hierarchy is probable, even essential.

While we Americans tout our civil liberties and political freedom, we have never despised our own government more. Awash in the latest gadget or iPad, we are actually fundamentally dissatisfied with the Steve Jobs' idea of creating a need for a product, rather than the other way around, as well as the latest round of deficit funded, social programs that just aggravate social divisions for which even more aggravating social programs are proposed to fix.

Islam offers a sense of communal spirituality. Mosques are cultural or community centers as well as places to pray, much like pre-20th Century Christian churches. Islam rejects materialism as well as decadence, offering a militaristic virtue of struggle in its place. Islam fears Western decadence even more than we, ourselves, are actually disappointed by it. Yet, we adhere to it. So, there really is no reconciliation between Islam and Western Modernity, in this sense. Winning hearts and minds is really just another attempt to bribe allies, a policy begun with T. Roosevelt which is now proving a costly failure. Meanwhile, Christianity continues to decline in the face of gov't assault and its own lack of purposefulness.

There was a lot more to the Fascist Movement than that to which the wartime "evil" idea limits us. The ideological battle today is one in which a "new Fascism' emerges , as Aleksander Dugin proposes to Vladimir Putin, or simply patriotism, which everyone from Donald d Trump to Ben Carson propose. Denigrating this as simply"Fascist" is a mistake. Anti-Semitism is, of course, important to Jews, but this is not the only view. In fact, the Utasha managed an alliance between Croatian Catholics and Muslims based on blood. Fascist led Muslim divisions performed a lot better than our proxy fighters. Why? Same thing: authority and a hierarchy, which was open to all the racially acceptable, but to which obedience was demanded.

This is long enough. The idea, though, I hope is clear.

The Fascist Movement deserves an objective look and it is time to dump the war time prejudices. Actually, it was more a belated Napoleonic Movement than anything else. Authority and hierarchy is, today, in need, over corrupt and out of control equalitarianism. It would be foolish for us to disregard the perspective both Fascism and Islam offer in this respect in the sense of knowing one's enemy as well as one's self.

Islam is succeeding while the American Progressive idea is failing. Should Europe look to its Fascist past for a solution, this is only to be expected and does not necessarily imply another "Holocaust" even though its eventual response to indigenous European Muslims might look that way. Rounding up Muslims in Europe, should this occur, would be preferable to civil war, whatever the Political Left or Jewish view of it might be.

That is why it is important to begin this consideration, now. Whatever else, Fascism was also Europe's last grasp for a central, unifying spirituality or culture, in which individuals served national or even European community rather than existed as parasites on a government socially engineered weal.

If the West is to defeat Islam, the West must offer something of its own culture-soul as superior, not its iPads.

This New Idea will probably look Fascist to some. But the current political and economic circumstance would actually prohibit such a movement.

Not to say that this New Idea won't have its own liabilities, but continually harping about Fascism is more likely to aggravate this than ameliorate it just as the obsession with slavery has in current Negro Movements.

In fact, slavery is no longer any more politically or economically viable in the West than Fascism.

The victor may write the history, but he doesn't get to complain about the peace.

The peace is peace is Progressive. The New Idea is not. Representative democracy may remain a but consider that our own Congress hasn't much more power than the Fascist or Communist representative bodies did.

From another view : As Progressivism degenerates into "safe places" and sensitivity food fights, a certain European as well as Russian nostalgia for the Hitler-Stalin Era isn't surprising. What Americans really need to deal with is a post-Progressive Western World in which our leadership is no longer a given.

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