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RE:Elijah was never a Moor
Reader comment on item: Aztecs, Moors, and Christians: Festivals of Reconquest in Mexico and Spain
in response to reader comment: Honorable Prophet Noble Drew Ali
Submitted by Malik Mubashshir (United States), May 31, 2018 at 10:41
With all due respect to brother Noble Patterson Bey, there is no credible evidence for any of the claims you have made. No proof exists for Elijah Muhammad's membership in the Moorish Science Temple or that he was ever known as Elijah Poole Bey. This is Moorish folklore and has no historical basis.
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