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Speculating About -Then Understanding Historical Persian Influences

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Submitted by M Tovey (United States), Oct 21, 2021 at 14:33

Understanding Historical Persian Influences
It took a while for this observer to circle back to observer Malcolm's speculations of a Persian sort in order to discern why, as much as it seemed beyond a decidedly occidental perspective that there was the inscrutable aspect of the Asian mindset to the development of the various peoples in that region, there was a strickening thought of similarity when considering the similarity to the American 'Western' cultural development; that while they are as asymmetrical as they can be, a deep and almost undetectable pattern may be discerned. Here is the problem; there is no logic to it. In another words, there is being Persian in ethnicity; yet there is being Persian in the intellectual pursuit of social identity. Similar, there is being American as a social identity; yet being American is not ethnically discernable. Question: does this prove or disprove Reader Malcolm's contention? From this perspective, neither.
Yet, in contemplating what was written and attempting to derive some sense that somehow there is any sense in what is being determined as potentially a reason or cause as to why a minority Persian ideology has set itself at odds with a world lost in its own delusion of a superiority complex none appear to understand, is there a conclusion that can be drawn by which the potential of nuclear meltdown can be averted? How did we get there? If there is a meeting that is being proffered to resolve this dilemma of whose nuclear ambitions are to be determined superior, is there a stability in the 'Persian' mindset or the 'Western' mindset that can be perceived: is the 'Persian' processes of thought (as Reader Malcolm notes-"Persian is also grammatically simpler and easier to learn than most Iranian languages") understandable in the 'Western' vernacular (Romance or Indo-European based?) so as to achieve a common understanding?
Or, to the detriment of the entirety of humanity, there is the underlying element of a misapplied sense of deterrence in defense of the multiethnic realm one is a part of that renders a certain incapability in making such a determination to the exclusion of the welfare of one side or another; again an issue of the ambitions of empire and how deeply set is that sense of preservation versus the protection of mankind altogether. To that extent, it all comes down to Reader Malcolm's proposition of whether the adopted religious adherence to Islam in the Oriental cultural sphere of influences or the Christian influences of the West and which has the strongest moral cultural base sufficient to survive the enmity and antagonisms that will not survive the nuclear meltdown that is being developed to the detriment of both. Where is the logic?
Now, while this could end up being debated to a certain inconclusive impasse, a more dramatic insertion of an unstable political premise is to be considered here: that of a definitively Persian circumstance that supersedes Reader Malcolm's perception of the minority report in which 'Iranian' sensibilities are more discreet: which bears more hostility towards the Iranian Islamic Regime's primary enemy; Israel? Is this generally derived, or ethnically? Further, is tis purported to be as much of a distraction that the Regime holds the American 'Western' sensibilities as being an obstacle to the Regime's started and tyrannically driven obsession to destroy Israel? How many of the subset ethnicities in the 'Iranian' complex populations are just as intent on that provocation; and what of the consequences are they willing to sacrifice the entirety of their existence for the Regime to achieve such a goal?
How much of this is Persian Culture and how much is of true Persian identity?

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Reader comments (8) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
When Iran Implodes; The Complexities of a Former Persian Identity [125 words]M ToveyOct 19, 2021 12:27275887
Read with due care [308 words]MalcolmSep 17, 2021 05:16274724
Debunked speculation [329 words]MalcolmSep 12, 2021 16:56274643
Speculating About -Then Understanding Historical Persian Influences [609 words]M ToveyOct 21, 2021 14:33274643
persian language speakers not all the same [163 words]ShishirNov 13, 2021 01:28274643
Failure in Understanding Persian Influences of Iranian Islamic Regime's Nuclear Stance [350 words]M ToveyNov 29, 2021 12:46274643
Had Them Where We Wanted Them And Then... [38 words]David RyanSep 10, 2021 16:22274596
Iranian Islamic Regime Modern Claim to Ancient Persian (Aryan) Empire? [198 words]M ToveySep 7, 2021 14:15274538

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