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Interpretation too Benign?

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Submitted by Ron Thompson (United States), Dec 23, 2009 at 12:25

This is certainly a useful poll, but Dr Pipes conclusions with regard to the questions about the willingness of Arabs to live with Israel seem too benign, especially without a definition of the "right circumstances" under which even the minority is willing to accept Israel.

The fact that the negative totals are so high should lead to the following conclusion: There is no reason whatsoever to negotiate SERIOUSLY toward a solution of the Palestinian problem as long as most Arabs and their States are unwilling to unambiguously admit Israel's right to exitst . In other words, keep looking for amelioration, as is going on in the West Bank, but no serious pressure on Israel to concede anything fundamental.

Sooner or later. it is to be hoped that some Western leader will say this, however low key the language used.

From another angle, it would be useful if some western leader or leading thinker "speculated" an alternative history i.e. what would the Middle East look like today if the Arab States had accepted Israel in 1948, or at least after 1967, and decided to profit from its example as a viable, modern, prosperous, rights-based, rule of law-based State instead of pledging themselves to its destruction. Given the fact that so-called "radical" Islam - which some of us think is the far more logical core of Islamic belief than peace, tolerance or respect for women - continues to slowly spread, especially now in Pakistan, why not offer this vision of an alternate world that could have been, or still might be, if the Arab Middle East not only condescends to "accept" Israel's right to exist, but actively respects its accomplishments.

I know this may seem wildly counterintuitive, but why not give it a try?

Ron Thompson

ps I'm not sure Saudi Arabia wouldn't tacitly allow Israel to overfly the country, as long as they had a plausible excuse, e.g. the planes were flying too high, or, they were over Iraq (while Iraq says the opposite)

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2Struggling to wake up [91 words]Ole BurdeJan 3, 2010 16:19166788
a crazy script [80 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanJan 8, 2010 07:58166788
Common sense and Uncommon questions [303 words]Jay1Jan 3, 2010 12:05166774
Add me to those!! [182 words]Coptic MartyrJan 2, 2010 22:03166750
Common Sense in the Middle East? [340 words]M. ToveyDec 28, 2009 14:29166380
Yeah...let Israel and the USA do egypts and Saudi's DIRTY work for them! [30 words]Tevya RDec 27, 2009 12:04166333
1numbers in perspective, iran obivously a controversial topic [144 words]mythDec 25, 2009 18:58166276
To Prof Pipes: My thought is Iranians (Persians) are not Arab [684 words]LadyDec 25, 2009 09:14166263
Key Point to Note, Dr. Pipes. [452 words]Aymenn JawadDec 25, 2009 04:20166251
Christian Arabs and Israel [468 words]dhimmi no moreDec 30, 2009 11:47166251
Slight correction [9 words]dhimmi no moreDec 31, 2009 07:30166251
to "dhimmi no more", about Christians Arabs' animosity towards Israelis: [418 words]Mot'keJan 4, 2010 00:24166251
Israel and the Christian Arabs [726 words]dhimmi no moreJan 6, 2010 08:18166251
1a nuclear islamic iran is scary to most people in the area ! ...09.dec [262 words]Phil GreendDec 24, 2009 20:36166232
common sense in egypt and saudi arabi [111 words]moDec 24, 2009 14:47166225
Common Sense in Saudi Arabia and Egypt----Americans fighting their wars [117 words]MichaelDec 24, 2009 10:08166220
A Glimmer of Hope [127 words]Rebecca MouldsDec 24, 2009 08:31166215
The fear of death can do some incredible things. [147 words]batya daganDec 24, 2009 00:06166204
Question about polling [17 words]KarlaDec 23, 2009 23:53166203
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Interpretation too Benign? [333 words]Ron ThompsonDec 23, 2009 12:25166184
Re Ron: the "no" to Israel and the refugee question [74 words]mythDec 25, 2009 19:08166184
Excellent analysis of these polling results, with 2 exceptions [165 words]Joseph KleinDec 23, 2009 11:42166183
Contrived article. [72 words]Richard OngDec 23, 2009 11:19166181
Interesting Dichotomy of Opinion [128 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
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cold-war-analysis: why an american airstrike rather than an israeli one ? hidden support for Israel ? [126 words]mythDec 25, 2009 19:43166180
Re. To Your Response To My Comment on DanielPipes.org [17 words]Bryan TaplitsDec 29, 2009 11:39166180
It doesn't encourage me much [83 words]Abu NudnikDec 23, 2009 11:02166179
Cause of war [88 words]Joe Six-PackDec 26, 2009 10:27166179
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