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Reader comment on item: Should We Blame a Florida Pastor for Deaths in Afghanistan?
in response to reader comment: We need to see the bigger picture
Submitted by Fred Baehr (United States), Apr 12, 2011 at 12:33
Frank, you obviously care about others, but frankly, Frank, (forgive me) you're holding Jones responsible for the actions of others. To seek out and murder someone is always - always - a choice. Lets say you believe in Jesus and dedicate your whole being to him. Then you see some "art piece" with Jesus covered in feces and urine and blood and guts. Maybe you will be very insulted. Maybe you will take it as a personal attack. Maybe you will take it as a political attack seeking the destruction of all you hold dear.
Maybe you will hope that the "artist" will rot in a lake of fire for eternity. Maybe you hope someone will shoot the sonofabitch. But will you go find him and murder him? Or will you go to the exhibit again with a concealed bomb and blow yourself and whoever else is there up and call yourself a martyr for Christ? That is the difference Frank. Muslims riot and murder because they want to. That is all.
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| No sense in provocation [42 words] | Phil Ghidinelli | May 11, 2012 15:27 | 195557 | ||
| 4 | islamic countries destroy many Christian Bibles and Jewish Torahs. [118 words] | Phil Greend | Jan 30, 2012 18:16 | 192908 | |
| 1 |  No Islamist will respond to this comment. [50 words] | Prashant | Jan 31, 2012 02:19 | 192908 | |
| 1 | Which translation [17 words] | Mark S. Yaegel | Apr 23, 2011 19:51 | 184527 | |
| 2 | The Qur'an and translations of the Qur'an are not really the Qur'an and who says that islam is not the religion of the Arabs only [130 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 24, 2011 15:36 | 184527 | |
| Blame Or No Blame, The Answer Is Stll...... [21 words] | Clifford Ishii | Apr 20, 2011 00:12 | 184435 | ||
| A god-send for the pc anti-Christian propaganda. [171 words] | Gordon Weare | Apr 18, 2011 06:06 | 184393 | ||
| God sent [225 words] | jan | Apr 21, 2011 14:53 | 184393 | ||
| More anti-Christian (In wholesale form) from a pc-coward - who gives no name. [188 words] | Gordon Weare | Apr 21, 2011 20:01 | 184393 | ||
| The pure cowardice of the ever omniscient, politically-correct hippy offspring. [134 words] | Gordon Weare | Apr 22, 2011 01:09 | 184393 | ||
| The opposition of USA may be ok but why are Pakistanis killing each other [157 words] | Prashant | Apr 22, 2011 04:47 | 184393 | ||
| Spot On [12 words] | Tom Dundee | Apr 23, 2011 15:43 | 184393 | ||
| "Bri-tupidity" Makes Londonistan a Possibility [425 words] | Nur el Masih Ben Haq | Apr 23, 2011 19:35 | 184393 | ||
| moslems killing moslems in bulk - [10 words] | Gordon Weare | Apr 24, 2011 04:32 | 184393 | ||
| THE SILENCE IS DEAFENING ! [129 words] | Gordon Weare | Apr 25, 2011 23:54 | 184393 | ||
| 2 | The enemy within! [77 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 26, 2011 08:38 | 184393 | |
| 3 | Thanks Daniel Pipes [80 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | M from North EU | Apr 17, 2011 06:24 | 184359 | |
| Agreed. [72 words] | Amerisrael | Apr 14, 2011 19:35 | 184259 | ||
| 8 | Guilty are the ones who kill and kill and kill [204 words] | M from North EU | Apr 13, 2011 11:39 | 184224 | |
| Time to reap, my dear Pakistani brother, what you sowed, Now recover damages from Pakistan [307 words] | Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat Panthi | May 4, 2011 13:28 | 184224 | ||
| 1 | I'm not a Pakistani brother ... [214 words] | M from North EU | May 5, 2011 05:21 | 184224 | |
| Sorry Dear [11 words] | Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat Panthi | May 6, 2011 00:20 | 184224 | ||
| 1 | Thank you Sir [28 words] | M from North EU | May 8, 2011 05:53 | 184224 | |
| 1 | Burn, Baby, Burn! [433 words] | julietsm | Apr 12, 2011 23:09 | 184207 | |
| 1 | By Comparison.... [127 words] | terence hoare | Apr 12, 2011 23:01 | 184206 | |
| 4 | "NEW" threat levels raised for troops? [462 words] | Moshe | Apr 12, 2011 09:49 | 184175 | |
| 7 | We can only blame Islam and the Mullahs [101 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 12, 2011 06:41 | 184172 | |
| 6 | Tit for tat-- [159 words] | Muslimk*** | Apr 12, 2011 03:09 | 184170 | |
| Who's to blame? [87 words] | David B. Klein | Apr 11, 2011 23:02 | 184160 | ||
| 1 | Critiquing Islam and not Islamism! [102 words] | Jaladhi | Apr 11, 2011 11:34 | 184144 | |
| 6 | They kill Christian converts and behead Jews and burn our flags [112 words] | M from North EU | Apr 10, 2011 12:25 | 184125 | |
| 4 | Book Burning. [203 words] | Philip Smeeton | Apr 10, 2011 09:14 | 184122 | |
| 1 | Who is to be blamed, Pastor Terry Jones or somebody else? [54 words] | Paladion | Apr 9, 2011 20:22 | 184115 | |
| Is Pastor is responsible? [96 words] | Ravi Ranjan Singh Bharat Panthi | May 8, 2011 05:37 | 184115 | ||
| 1 | Then, who is to be blamed? [30 words] | PALADION | Apr 9, 2011 19:31 | 184114 | |
| American exceptionalism [100 words] | Abraham Irwin | Apr 9, 2011 18:28 | 184112 | ||
| 2 | Terry Jones was within his right to burn a Koran [244 words] | there is NO Santa Claus | Apr 9, 2011 17:31 | 184109 | |
| We should listen to Dan Pipes. [63 words] | Ben Zee | Apr 9, 2011 12:46 | 184103 | ||
| 1 | We're In Trouble [91 words] | Jules Posten | Apr 8, 2011 13:18 | 184079 | |
| 1 | Jones has right to burn Koran, but he should know there are severe consequences! [32 words] | Ben Zee | Apr 9, 2011 12:40 | 184079 | |
| We're In Trouble (continued) [163 words] | Jules Posten | Apr 11, 2011 14:01 | 184079 | ||
| 13 | double standards in the media [245 words] | Dr. David Cashin | Apr 8, 2011 06:48 | 184066 |
| 2 | "Double Standards in the Media" may be due to journalists selfishness [289 words] | Prashant | Apr 24, 2011 16:34 | 184066 | |
| The blame lies with neither [9 words] | Kevin | Apr 8, 2011 06:04 | 184064 | ||
| Jesus [3 words] | Qhawe | Apr 8, 2011 06:02 | 184063 | ||
| Love is not a law [214 words] | Anna | Apr 11, 2011 09:20 | 184063 | ||
| for freedom [157 words] | concerned | Apr 8, 2011 05:22 | 184060 | ||
| 1 | Burn! [486 words] | Fred Baehr | Apr 8, 2011 05:13 | 184059 | |
| 3 | MUSLIMS HAD BURNED SEVERAL COPIES OF THE BIBLE WITH IMPUNITY [756 words] | Nur el Masih Ben Haq | Apr 8, 2011 04:25 | 184056 | |
| 3 | I am burning the Koran with Pastor Jones! [358 words] | NuritG | Apr 8, 2011 02:22 | 184054 | |
| action of rev. jones [196 words] | R. Chakravarti | Jul 26, 2012 12:23 | 184054 | ||
| A matter of choice [54 words] | Arthura | Apr 8, 2011 01:27 | 184052 | ||
| 1 | Quran-Koran burning [67 words] | peter knopfler | Apr 8, 2011 00:00 | 184050 | |
| Yes, Pastor Terry Jones is Responsible!! [135 words] | William Arul | Apr 7, 2011 23:16 | 184048 | ||
| Constitution of the United States [269 words] | Arlinda DeAngelis | Apr 23, 2011 08:46 | 184048 | ||
| 2 | The short answer is no. [207 words] | batya dagan | Apr 7, 2011 18:57 | 184041 | |
| 1 | Who is to blame? [105 words] | Rude Waken | Apr 7, 2011 17:37 | 184040 | |
| 8 | Should We Blame The Florida Pastor...? [188 words] | Saila | Apr 7, 2011 17:25 | 184038 | |
| 1 | We need to see the bigger picture [81 words] | Frank Luke | Apr 7, 2011 20:50 | 184038 | |
| Pastor's comments [15 words] | Bo Carl | Apr 7, 2011 23:42 | 184038 | ||
| Being right and doing wrong. [339 words] | Michel C. Zala | Apr 11, 2011 09:08 | 184038 | ||
| Sharia [40 words] | Anna | Apr 11, 2011 09:29 | 184038 | ||
| We are answerable to our Creator [135 words] | Frank Luke | Apr 12, 2011 10:27 | 184038 | ||
 Details in the Big Picture [172 words] | Fred Baehr | Apr 12, 2011 12:33 | 184038 | ||
| God will judge all of us [115 words] | Frank Luke | Apr 12, 2011 18:49 | 184038 | ||
| 5 | Answer Me this One [7 words] | Bob P. | Apr 7, 2011 17:17 | 184037 | |
| 6 | The problem are the islamoracists !!!!!!!! [54 words] | Don Rosenberg | Apr 7, 2011 17:08 | 184036 | |
| 4 | Animal world is much more civilized!! [65 words] | Jaladhi | Apr 8, 2011 09:17 | 184036 | |
| 1 | ANIMALS ARE BEAUTIFUL [259 words] | Ilene Richman | Apr 8, 2011 09:31 | 184036 | |
| 6 | Freedom of expression in Koran burning [224 words] | Bob Jack | Apr 7, 2011 16:36 | 184033 | |
| So how about it Bob? [244 words] | Fred Baehr | Apr 12, 2011 13:03 | 184033 | ||
| Koran burning etc. [82 words] | Bob Jack | Apr 12, 2011 17:46 | 184033 | ||
| 1 | Just one correction to Bob's letter [73 words] | Prashant | Apr 13, 2011 02:16 | 184033 | |
| Back to Bob [134 words] | Fred Baehr | Apr 14, 2011 14:50 | 184033 | ||
| Free Expression [22 words] | Bob Jack | Apr 14, 2011 15:49 | 184033 | ||
| 1 | Koran burning and the role of Congress [220 words] | Bob Jack | Apr 7, 2011 16:31 | 184032 | |
| The Koran burning and the protection of American values [218 words] | Bob Jack | Apr 7, 2011 16:24 | 184031 | ||
| The killer is the first to blame of course [146 words] | Hanan Atalay | Apr 7, 2011 15:58 | 184029 | ||
| should we blame a Florida pastor Deaths in Afghanistan ? [78 words] | Chandihok | Apr 7, 2011 14:47 | 184027 | ||
| Video > Ann Barnhardt rebuts Lindsey Graham's remarks on 4/3/2011 regarding the First Amendment. Part 1 of 2. [17 words] | Rochelle Michaels | Apr 7, 2011 14:32 | 184026 | ||
| Goverrnment Leadership Vacumm [46 words] | Bob Fox | Apr 7, 2011 14:00 | 184025 | ||
| 2 | burning a book vs murder [40 words] | Jules Posten | Apr 7, 2011 13:38 | 184024 | |
| Should We Blame a Florida Pastor for Deaths in Afghanistan? [92 words] | julius klayman | Apr 7, 2011 13:20 | 184022 | ||
| Should We Blame A Florida Pastor for Deaths in Afghanistan? [38 words] | Sandra | Apr 7, 2011 13:07 | 184021 | ||
| 3 | Couldn't agree more Daniel [70 words] | Wilks | Apr 7, 2011 12:32 | 184018 | |
| First Draft Card Burning, Then American Flag Burning and Now the Koran [164 words] | Mark Preston | Apr 7, 2011 12:22 | 184015 | ||
| 1 | Afghanistan--successful resistance agsint civilization again [241 words] | Kepha | Apr 8, 2011 15:08 | 184015 | |
| 2 | Re: Burning the Koran [168 words] | Dennis Garwitz Sr. | Apr 7, 2011 12:19 | 184014 | |
| 1 | Re: It is ".. the repugnant, barbaric ideology of Islamism [which] ...is to blame." [489 words] | mariana | Apr 7, 2011 12:16 | 184013 | |
| 1 | ISLAM IS A "SECT", NOT A RELIGION [287 words] | Ilene Richman | Apr 7, 2011 11:53 | 184012 | |
| 1 | So Open-minded; the moral eqivalence is brilliant. How any Beheadings and Honour Killings can you attribute to Jeffs? [145 words] | mariana | Apr 8, 2011 12:17 | 184012 | |
| 1 | First Amendment? [70 words] | David Koral | Apr 7, 2011 11:48 | 184011 | |
| 1 | Biblical scripture does not support Mr. Jones, and His actions... [243 words] | James fleming | Apr 7, 2011 11:32 | 184009 | |
| 2 | what does it tell you? [129 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Apr 8, 2011 07:22 | 184009 | |
| And our Leaders failed us [275 words] | Peter J. Herz | Apr 8, 2011 14:58 | 184009 | ||
| 2 | For something bad to happen it requires a root cause and a trigger [873 words] | Michel C. Zala | Apr 9, 2011 14:14 | 184009 | |
| 3 | no good reason [228 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Apr 11, 2011 06:52 | 184009 | |
| Cause and Effect - Darkness Cannot Produce Light - [740 words] | M. Tovey | Apr 11, 2011 13:57 | 184009 | ||
| 1 | GIK - For once there are strightforward answers to your questions - rare indeed [720 words] | Michel C. Zala | Apr 12, 2011 10:21 | 184009 | |
| If you assert that muslims, and the rioters in particular, are children, then you could say Jones has responsibility. [54 words] | Mark | Apr 7, 2011 11:19 | 184007 | ||
| 1 | We hold these truths... [107 words] | Tom from Chicago | Apr 7, 2011 11:16 | 184006 | |
| 4 | If Jones is responsible, Muslims have no will, no responsibility, no humanity [94 words] | Abu Nudnik | Apr 7, 2011 11:03 | 184005 | |
| Abu Nudnik, please explain: (1) insha'Allah; (2) self-autonomy of a Muslim [34 words] | RhetoricalGirl | Apr 7, 2011 22:43 | 184005 | ||
| If Jones is resonsible then muslims have no free will [6 words] | Julie | Apr 8, 2011 01:32 | 184005 | ||
| totalitarian ideology [153 words] | Anna | Apr 11, 2011 09:37 | 184005 | ||
| Response to Abu Nudnik was an effort to illustrate the fallacy of his comment ... [27 words] | RhetoricalGirl | Apr 11, 2011 23:34 | 184005 | ||
| Don't know what you mean [75 words] | Abu Nudnik | Apr 30, 2011 13:59 | 184005 | ||
| Not a successful rebuttal [62 words] | Abu Nudnik | Apr 30, 2011 14:02 | 184005 | ||
| All things are not expedient [125 words] | Frank Luke | Apr 7, 2011 10:54 | 184004 | ||
| Great Article [156 words] | Carol H. | Apr 7, 2011 09:57 | 183995 | ||
| Legal expression vs. murder [57 words] | Carol Wallwork | Apr 7, 2011 09:55 | 183994 | ||
| 2 | a Barbaric religion [231 words] | trainman6 | Apr 7, 2011 09:47 | 183993 | |
| It's Not "Just" to Be Killed Like This [153 words] | Joe Spivack | Apr 7, 2011 09:23 | 183992 | ||
| Who's to blame? [81 words] | Sunshine Sammy | Apr 7, 2011 09:17 | 183991 | ||
| Go back to your roots. And stay therel. [15 words] | Rebecca | Apr 7, 2011 08:06 | 183990 | ||
| 2 | Muslim killings after Koran burning [77 words] | leejh | Apr 7, 2011 22:49 | 183990 |
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