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Reader comment on item: Muhammad Ali v. George W. Bush
Submitted by Jay Martin Bennett (United States), Nov 29, 2005 at 16:05
The question is: why boxing?This is, and still is, an ill-run, ill-managed, ill-presentation of manhood in this day and age of enlightenment.
Two men, in a ring, pummeling each other, and they're watched and paid millions.
On pay tv, airwaves that used to be free, and owned by the people, now run by big business.
It is indeed the nadir of the incumbent as well as the nadir for us all as we patronize savagery.
The ignoble animal part of the centaur overwhelming the noble human side.
Jay Martin Bennett
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| Ali and Bush's Book Tour [60 words] | fabio | Feb 26, 2015 11:51 | 221971 | ||
| Muhammad Ali = US National Treasure [18 words] | SallyandJane | May 2, 2013 12:11 | 205796 | ||
| 18 | Message is clearly passed. [35 words] | MsM | Sep 15, 2010 13:40 | 178285 | |
| 1 |  ELOQUENCE SPEAKS LOUDER [84 words] | MdShafiqM | Jul 2, 2019 06:24 | 178285 | |
| Ali's "Crazy" Gesture [124 words] | moeursalen | Aug 16, 2010 09:25 | 176740 | ||
| 2 | Concerning Ali [418 words] | vigilant1 | Dec 7, 2008 11:32 | 144582 | |
| 5 | Muhammed Ali [18 words] | Straight_Talk_Luigi | Jun 20, 2008 12:11 | 132754 | |
| 5 | Reputations - Ali [107 words] | Sean | Mar 15, 2008 17:49 | 122740 | |
| Ali the wonderful fighter [34 words] | joseph romig | Jan 18, 2008 12:41 | 118462 | ||
| 20 | Cassius Clay The COWARD [105 words] | Robert W. Baronich | Jan 8, 2007 21:32 | 72116 | |
| 7 | Clay.... Medal of Shame [118 words] | RG | Jun 21, 2007 16:12 | 72116 | |
| In Honor of your Courage and Power Mr. Ali [72 words] | Anita Wright | Apr 27, 2006 18:35 | 44362 | ||
| presidential medal of honor for Ali the boxer [255 words] | gail hiebert | Jan 31, 2006 10:20 | 33250 | ||
| 17 | CASSIUS CLAY, DRAFT DODGER, NOTHING MORE, AND ALOT LESS [78 words] | Ron | Mar 2, 2006 20:01 | 33250 | |
| Daft dodger [111 words] | Ron Christensen | Dec 18, 2006 00:37 | 33250 | ||
| 6 | ALI the draft dodger [115 words] | sonny | Jan 13, 2011 19:58 | 33250 | |
| Ali Draft Dodger [17 words] | John James | Mar 23, 2011 17:24 | 33250 | ||
| Ali [115 words] | DE g | Feb 25, 2015 22:07 | 33250 | ||
| Bodyguard [59 words] | Adar | Mar 3, 2015 13:03 | 33250 | ||
| 2 | Muhammad Ali [36 words] | Bobby | Jan 26, 2006 17:15 | 32565 | |
| It's obvious... [17 words] | People... | Mar 7, 2006 21:39 | 32565 | ||
| Fake Presidency [152 words] | Bill | Jan 13, 2006 21:25 | 31591 | ||
| Muhammad Ali [58 words] | Mord N. | Dec 27, 2005 02:53 | 30616 | ||
| Nadir? [14 words] | Dave Roberts | Dec 24, 2005 15:52 | 30506 | ||
| 1 | Mulsims are Sinners [236 words] | Aknad Abdulah | Dec 17, 2005 11:20 | 30111 | |
| Muhammad Ali [21 words] | Lamar Cole | Dec 16, 2005 02:18 | 30053 | ||
| 5 | Nation of Islam is evil [167 words] | xtian | Dec 12, 2005 17:21 | 29836 | |
| You have no idea of what your saying. [132 words] | Unkown Force | Mar 26, 2007 21:28 | 29836 | ||
| You need to read some books. [43 words] | Known Force | Jun 4, 2016 22:19 | 29836 | ||
| 1 | ONE FOR JANE [24 words] | R. BALUSEK | Dec 9, 2005 13:28 | 29705 | |
| Like all Americans [161 words] | cool | Dec 5, 2005 20:46 | 29481 | ||
| 1 | Dishonoring the Medal [243 words] | Rick Martens | Dec 5, 2005 12:24 | 29428 | |
| 2 | Mirage [109 words] | Berjees Taaj | Dec 5, 2005 01:59 | 29416 | |
| 4 | Embarrased by that award to Cassius Clay. [246 words] | David | Dec 2, 2005 16:30 | 29327 | |
| Guess [25 words] | Edwin A. | Mar 3, 2015 13:13 | 29327 | ||
| to: ROBERT M. JOSEPHSON [4 words] | orange yonason | Dec 1, 2005 14:05 | 29252 | ||
| Ali always does that [48 words] | Mike Cotter | Dec 1, 2005 12:41 | 29240 | ||
| 2 | Disgrace to honor Muhammad Ali [45 words] | Stuart | Dec 1, 2005 11:05 | 29234 | |
| stuart lacks historical insight and knows nothing about art of boxing and poetry [179 words] | dr. jacqueline clinton | Jan 20, 2007 21:21 | 29234 | ||
| 1 | wrong [28 words] | Jerry Parrish | Sep 9, 2008 17:35 | 29234 | |
| Hanafi [76 words] | Adar | Mar 3, 2015 13:20 | 29234 | ||
| I don't care for Ali [19 words] | B Shniper | Dec 1, 2005 10:35 | 29231 | ||
| Come On [176 words] | MysteriousGypsy | Dec 1, 2005 02:35 | 29212 | ||
| 1 | Standing up for Beliefs [67 words] | Anni | Jan 26, 2006 17:20 | 29212 | |
| Is this compassionate conservatism I'm reading? [170 words] | Court Jester | Nov 30, 2005 23:52 | 29206 | ||
| A word badly chosen [39 words] | Kevin | Nov 30, 2005 22:07 | 29199 | ||
| I even forgot why [65 words] | E Kurtock | Nov 30, 2005 21:42 | 29197 | ||
| Proof that it's only a symptom of much deeper delusion [203 words] | orange yonason | Nov 30, 2005 21:41 | 29196 | ||
| 2 | re: rush limbaugh's rogue pharmacist [146 words] | Donald O | Nov 30, 2005 21:18 | 29192 | |
| God Bless Mohammad Ali [72 words] | Rashid | Nov 30, 2005 19:57 | 29187 | ||
| Well, this was disgusting [109 words] | Valdron | Nov 30, 2005 13:29 | 29161 | ||
| 1 | Worship of False Idols [259 words] | Walter | Nov 30, 2005 12:39 | 29158 | |
| Ali [23 words] | Garrett Lynch | Sep 1, 2006 02:50 | 29158 | ||
| 1 | Ali [124 words] | Yoven | Nov 30, 2005 12:09 | 29152 | |
| unfair [113 words] | Rashid | Nov 30, 2005 11:50 | 29147 | ||
| unfair??? [13 words] | Brandon | Jan 18, 2007 06:31 | 29147 | ||
| 1 | A Knockout--Bravo Zulu [131 words] | Jeremy Taylor, Rear Admiral, USN (Ret) | Nov 30, 2005 11:49 | 29146 | |
| Could be a Man for Peace [128 words] | Abir Chaaban | Nov 30, 2005 11:14 | 29143 | ||
| D. Waite IS RIGHT ON TARGET [187 words] | Sammy B | Nov 30, 2005 11:02 | 29142 | ||
| Ali [5 words] | tom willis | Nov 30, 2005 10:32 | 29140 | ||
| Even without a voice, Ali says a lot [97 words] | luther garcia | Nov 30, 2005 10:19 | 29139 | ||
| Not the First Time [24 words] | Rich Vos | Nov 30, 2005 09:26 | 29136 | ||
| Cassius Clay [106 words] | Richard G. Paradis | Nov 30, 2005 09:07 | 29134 | ||
| My memories as I was growing up in Baghdad [313 words] | Raid Mohammad | Nov 30, 2005 07:59 | 29130 | ||
| Ali vs. President Bush [243 words] | John R. Peacher | Nov 30, 2005 07:45 | 29129 | ||
| Draft evader [62 words] | JK | Nov 30, 2005 07:39 | 29128 | ||
| Ali is the greatest [270 words] | asif iqbal | Nov 30, 2005 07:37 | 29127 | ||
| 3 | Cross-examining the Cult of Ali [272 words] | Bart J. Stinson | May 29, 2006 04:12 | 29127 | |
| THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME [110 words] | Muhammed Ali | Nov 30, 2005 07:34 | 29126 | ||
| Ali is a great man [55 words] | Klee Gluckman | Nov 30, 2005 01:31 | 29112 | ||
| Ignoring Ali & history [209 words] | D. Waite | Nov 29, 2005 23:44 | 29110 | ||
| Lighten Up [64 words] | Don | Nov 29, 2005 23:38 | 29109 | ||
| Who Next? [5 words] | Sami | Nov 29, 2005 23:24 | 29108 | ||
| Ali, boxer or symbol of Muslim pride [108 words] | Thomas Earl Cannady | Nov 29, 2005 22:32 | 29106 | ||
| Re: Manufactured Heros [237 words] | Reuben Horne | Nov 29, 2005 22:17 | 29103 | ||
| response to Donald O [157 words] | Rush Limbaugh's Rogue Pharmacist | Nov 29, 2005 22:17 | 29102 | ||
| 1 | Couldn't Agree More! [58 words] | Jane | Nov 29, 2005 21:43 | 29098 | |
| Too-bad-this-wasn't-a-"nomination." [1 words] | orange yonason | Nov 29, 2005 21:37 | 29097 | ||
| 1 | Kudos to Dr.Pipes for exposing Ali & K.O.ing his "giddy fawning" fans [519 words] | Ben van de Polder | Nov 29, 2005 21:25 | 29095 | |
| 1 | Floats like a butterfly stings like a flea [58 words] | Jerry | Nov 29, 2005 21:20 | 29093 | |
| Muhammed With Clay Feet [201 words] | Arlinda DeAngelis | Nov 29, 2005 20:27 | 29091 | ||
| Mohammad Ali [106 words] | steven l | Nov 29, 2005 20:22 | 29090 | ||
| Ali is a HERO!! [182 words] | Nick B. | Nov 29, 2005 19:55 | 29085 | ||
| Uh, Hilda. [43 words] | jaime | Nov 29, 2005 19:52 | 29084 | ||
| Ali [174 words] | Donald W. Bales | Nov 29, 2005 19:51 | 29082 | ||
| 1 | Ali is right, and he's a cheater [133 words] | Alex | Nov 29, 2005 19:44 | 29081 | |
| ali the greatest [19 words] | Alex | May 17, 2007 10:56 | 29081 | ||
| One wonders [198 words] | Carolyn Barnett | Nov 29, 2005 19:07 | 29078 | ||
| Alan Greenspan is Jewish- re Hilda [70 words] | AltonDarwin | Nov 29, 2005 18:57 | 29076 | ||
| W: the true american hero [170 words] | Donald O | Nov 29, 2005 18:37 | 29073 | ||
| 2 | Cassius Clay The Traitor [83 words] | Jim Keating | Nov 29, 2005 18:24 | 29071 | |
| NOI = Terrorists? [134 words] | valaree | Nov 29, 2005 18:15 | 29069 | ||
| 1 | WHAT ??? [122 words] | Shiprek | Jan 11, 2006 20:52 | 29069 | |
| The Greatest - an ornament [100 words] | Nov 29, 2005 17:51 | 29065 | |||
| Information left out of racist rant [74 words] | ChristianLibrul | Nov 29, 2005 17:41 | 29060 | ||
| Christianity conflicts with liberalism [29 words] | liberals | Jun 4, 2016 22:25 | 29060 | ||
| 1 | Our dear Liberals and "Classical liberals" what ever that is [104 words] | dhimmi no more | Jun 6, 2016 07:48 | 29060 | |
| Way off base [271 words] | andrea stone | Nov 29, 2005 17:41 | 29059 | ||
| Me. We. [62 words] | Tug | Nov 29, 2005 17:37 | 29057 | ||
| 1 | Ali - No Friend of the USA [108 words] | J Glueck | Nov 29, 2005 17:36 | 29056 | |
| offensive how? [378 words] | Rush Limbaugh's Rogue Pharmacist | Nov 29, 2005 17:20 | 29053 | ||
| 1 | I'm confused [204 words] | Jim Flammang | Nov 29, 2005 17:17 | 29052 | |
| write on! [276 words] | john w. mcginley | Nov 29, 2005 17:17 | 29051 | ||
| Ali didn't kill anyone. [27 words] | Ube R. Patriot | Nov 29, 2005 17:07 | 29046 | ||
| Bush gives Ali medal [116 words] | Hilda | Nov 29, 2005 16:58 | 29044 | ||
| A Day Late and a Dollar Short [19 words] | Squeaky McCrinkle | Nov 29, 2005 16:52 | 29042 | ||
| Makes sense [17 words] | No Way | Nov 29, 2005 16:51 | 29040 | ||
| apex, not nadir [56 words] | anonymous | Nov 29, 2005 16:44 | 29035 | ||
| Ali. The Man meets Bush. The empty suit. [74 words] | Paul | Nov 29, 2005 16:42 | 29034 | ||
| Hmmm... [78 words] | jaime | Nov 29, 2005 16:40 | 29033 | ||
| It's about time! [63 words] | Buford | Nov 29, 2005 16:37 | 29032 | ||
| "Crazy Twirl" [71 words] | Janie | Nov 29, 2005 16:36 | 29031 | ||
| I don't know if you've taken this the right way... [42 words] | Mike | Nov 29, 2005 16:35 | 29030 | ||
| Everybody knows... [27 words] | Chip Lewis | Nov 29, 2005 16:35 | 29029 | ||
| Reply to Donovan [221 words] | Mu'een Ud Deen | Nov 29, 2005 16:29 | 29026 | ||
| The Nadir? [208 words] | Paul P. Belle Isle | Nov 29, 2005 16:29 | 29025 | ||
 Cassius Clay [87 words] | Jay Martin Bennett | Nov 29, 2005 16:05 | 29020 | ||
| shell shocked [117 words] | donvan | Nov 29, 2005 15:03 | 29012 | ||
| Mohamad Ali vs George Bush [50 words] | Sam MOhareb | Nov 29, 2005 14:34 | 29008 | ||
| God Bless USA & Israel [44 words] | Jurist Benedictos Mohamad Ali | Feb 26, 2009 14:05 | 29008 | ||
| 1 | Don't Give Any Part of Jerusalem to Muslims [115 words] | Jurist Benedictos Mohamad Ali | Feb 28, 2009 11:09 | 29008 | |
| Excellent [12 words] | J. Mucci | Nov 29, 2005 14:33 | 29007 | ||
| Ali [64 words] | Dave Kessinger | Nov 29, 2005 14:04 | 29004 | ||
| My encounter with Muhammad Ali [144 words] | Ishmael Phillips | Nov 29, 2005 14:01 | 29003 | ||
| Let's see if the major media will pick up your comments! [102 words] | David Harari | Nov 29, 2005 13:49 | 29002 | ||
| We've seen this before [49 words] | David W. Lincoln | Nov 29, 2005 12:45 | 28998 | ||
| Why Not? [205 words] | Yehoshua Zeller | Nov 29, 2005 11:55 | 28995 | ||
| Coming soon: Cindy Sheehan [220 words] | Pat | Nov 29, 2005 11:36 | 28993 | ||
| THANK YOU,THANK YOU , THANK YOU. [45 words] | MARV COOPER | Nov 29, 2005 10:52 | 28991 | ||
| Ali [53 words] | Emgarb | Nov 29, 2005 10:41 | 28989 | ||
| Go figure! [248 words] | Daniel M | Nov 29, 2005 10:30 | 28988 | ||
| America usually cops out when it comes to fame or athletics [253 words] | Robert | Nov 29, 2005 09:59 | 28984 | ||
| Blundering Bush [111 words] | Dave Mitchell | Nov 29, 2005 09:31 | 28983 | ||
| Ali's Myth [36 words] | Jiri Severa | Nov 29, 2005 09:30 | 28981 | ||
| ALI [287 words] | ROBERT M. JOSEPHSON | Nov 29, 2005 09:01 | 28978 | ||
| Thank You [89 words] | Lee D. Cary | Nov 29, 2005 08:43 | 28976 | ||
| comment on Ali [171 words] | Ray Exley | Nov 29, 2005 08:35 | 28975 | ||
| President's handlers [35 words] | Vijay Dandapani | Nov 29, 2005 08:18 | 28974 | ||
| Ali in WW2 [36 words] | gordon berger | Nov 29, 2005 08:05 | 28973 | ||
| The canonization of Cassius Clay (aka Muhammad Ali)? [183 words] | Janet Kempf | Nov 29, 2005 06:46 | 28971 | ||
| 1 | Read his entire life history, then perhaps you may have better insight into the person, the human being Cassius Clay AKA Muhammad Ali [285 words] | Isabell | Sep 30, 2006 19:27 | 28971 |
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