69 million page views

Opposite view

Reader comment on item: [After Sharon:] Israeli Politics Will Revert to Its Past

Submitted by Harrak (Canada), Jan 16, 2006 at 22:55

The only thing I agree with in this article is the fact that Sharon did a mistake withrawing from Gaza under the heat of Palestinian rock-ets like Ehud Barak did under the Hizbollah rockets. This gives -like Daniel mentioned- a justification that violence works.

I am sceptical about the Term "WAR" used by Daniel to describe the Palesinian-Israeli conflict. That is no war. War is an "open armed conflict between two parties" according to Collins definition. confrontation between two armies is the most understood consept of that definition. All of us know that Palestinians have no army, and not until late 1980s that they started a guerilla like fight against the Israeli army. Before, they were unarmed. If we should use the term war to describe the Palestinian-Israeli conflict, then war is absolutly not yet over in Iraq and Afganistan where fellow Canadian and American citizens die continually and attacks are carried out just in Afghanistan more than in Israel, that is without mentioning Iraq. So either that is no War or War is all over including in Columbia. Here Mr bush agrees with me saying war is all over. Yes war on terror!

What I do not agree with though is to say that things will go back to business and maybe a solution will be found for the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. I do not beleive so although I hope that their will be a solution. Because the nature of the conflict is religious, each part of the conflict speaks on the behalf of god like the mayor of new orleans.

Palestinians say that the holy land is their first prayer point and that the tradition -sunna- says that it will be conquered by Islam like once before. Jews say that god gave them the land and they are the chosen people of god etc..Politicians are nothing but the motor that uses all these argument to formulate policies to acheive political gains. In both Palest and israeli sides all the same. I believe that for peace in the middle east to be a possibility, one ideas is inevitable: There must be a one state solution. A referendum that will includes aboriginal (arabs of the 1948) + Gasa and west bank Arabs + aboriginal jews of the before 48 and immigrant citizens+ palestinian christians and druz and all the rest of minorities including the tiny hidden Alawites. The creation of Multipartism system with a strict ban of arms and a ban of religion from state institutions. Secularism and real democracy will make an end to that problem. All other states that use religion to support terror of the palestinians like S.Arabia and Gulf states or in the other side Israeli State terror supported by mainly the US, all those supporters will have no one to support and they will face a democracy question in their countries.

If so is done, I will be among the first applicants to immigrate their and help rebuilding the beautiful Isratine or Palesrael or what ever the name will be.

Thank you very much.
Dislike
Submitting....

Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".

Submit a comment on this item

<< Previous Comment      Next Comment >>

Reader comments (66) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
The news of Kadima's death is somewhat premature [30 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Walter SchwagerMar 29, 2006 00:4741742
Opposite view [505 words]HarrakJan 16, 2006 22:5531769
WILL SHARON'S POLICIES SURVIVE [173 words]AKJan 16, 2006 18:4731759
Poll: Kadima support rises with Olmert as leader [74 words]ARBJan 11, 2006 13:3931467
Wishful thinking [51 words]ARBJan 11, 2006 13:3631464
Purim-style Spiel to celebrate Sharon's recovery [283 words]orange yonasonJan 10, 2006 02:3131381
Azoy geht haOylam,yeah? [78 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 10, 2006 23:1331381
Some say "The Work Of The Great Sharon Should Continue."? [336 words]orange yonasonJan 9, 2006 23:3531373
Reply to Orange Yonason [93 words]Seamuia MacNemiJan 10, 2006 10:0731373
Colossal Mistake ... or ?? [626 words]J.S.Jan 10, 2006 15:1931373
The Accident That Wasn't [296 words]orange yonasonJan 11, 2006 22:2031373
Yes, for the religious, "accidents" have purpose... [158 words]J.S.Jan 12, 2006 19:3831373
A Sharon in the future of American Politics [243 words]Thomas Earl CannadyJan 9, 2006 05:5331322
Gradual Disappearance of Phata-Morgana [264 words]Mikael KJan 8, 2006 18:3031294
Back on the death-track? [294 words]Christian EpareJan 8, 2006 18:0831292
Yes, Back On "Death Track," And With A Vengeance! [515 words]orange yonasonJan 10, 2006 01:0631292
I agree with Orange Yonason [27 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 10, 2006 09:4731292
Wait and See - Is this a third way? [205 words]PatJan 8, 2006 15:3031284
Don't write off kadima so fast [99 words]Kalman NeumanJan 8, 2006 13:3331280
Mr. Sharon's demise [536 words]H. E. LaffertyJan 8, 2006 12:5531278
After Sharon: Too Early to Speculate [350 words]Maurice PicowJan 8, 2006 11:5431276
A big stroke in mid east polity [506 words]Amitabh tripathiJan 7, 2006 09:1331229
Before we criticise Sharon [92 words]Klee GluckmanJan 7, 2006 05:0331219
End times. [76 words]Shane KelleyJan 7, 2006 04:0731217
Sharon has betrayed Israel. [112 words]Arvind MadhavanJan 7, 2006 04:0231216
Tragically-Politics as usual [256 words]jayJan 6, 2006 22:4331210
Winning the war [217 words]Jerome KrasnowJan 6, 2006 16:4631195
Sharon has furthered the Palestinian agenda..... [122 words]Janet Ann SuzukiJan 6, 2006 16:4431194
Brilliant idea, not a "monumental mistake" [349 words]BorisJan 6, 2006 16:2131193
TIA's and CVA [175 words]y brandstetter MDJan 8, 2006 15:0931193
Food for Thought [147 words]Janet Ann SuzukiJan 6, 2006 16:1631191
The Case for Sharon [753 words]J.S.Jan 6, 2006 15:1931189
The Demise Of Kadima [185 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 6, 2006 12:0631181
Prime Minister Sharon's Legacy......He GAVE the enemy land belonging to the Jews. [124 words]Janet Ann SuzukiJan 6, 2006 12:0431180
sharon downsized [114 words]alan jay gerberJan 6, 2006 09:2431176
Will A New Third Party Survived Sharon's Departure? [86 words]AnneMJan 6, 2006 07:0631170
Kadima ? to where and what [227 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 9, 2006 01:3731170
I respect this man [211 words]Maya MarkovaJan 6, 2006 03:4631168
Ariel Sharon - Leader, Bulldozer, Peace Maker - Dr. Pipes? [116 words]Heather ClarkJan 6, 2006 01:2131160
Re-alignment of Israeli politics following Sharon's stroke [32 words]Ury WeissJan 5, 2006 22:3031153
A hero in a land of heroes, [34 words]Kip WatsonJan 5, 2006 22:0431152
post Sharon [27 words]StevenLJan 5, 2006 18:5131144
On Benjamin Netanyahu [148 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 9, 2006 11:1031144
Israel's Suicide [93 words]Ralph C Whaley MDJan 5, 2006 18:1931142
not true [150 words]y brandstetter MDJan 9, 2006 13:0631142
Israel's Fractured Knesset [327 words]DiggerJan 9, 2006 22:3231142
Kadima [170 words]Donald W. BalesJan 5, 2006 17:3431134
on the contrary [361 words]yuval brandstetterJan 5, 2006 17:2731132
There may be a "peace" deal on the horizon [139 words]RenchJan 5, 2006 17:1231130
and perhaps even some forward movement toward a resolution of the Israeli-Palestinian war. [67 words]jimboyJan 5, 2006 16:5731128
final borders [242 words]yuval brandstetterJan 7, 2006 07:5231128
Everything here has changed [291 words]Kenneth S. BesigJan 5, 2006 12:4031110
Convergence [161 words]David W. LincolnJan 5, 2006 12:3031109
the king is dead; long live the king [258 words]John W. Mcginley "Nathan" for this particular commentJan 5, 2006 12:3031108
Arik Melekh Israel [136 words]ArielJan 9, 2006 17:5031108
New law if Likud wins [80 words]EMOpalJan 5, 2006 12:1531107
Personalities and Politics [325 words]ddsJan 5, 2006 11:3731105
Israeli-Palestinian War [35 words]DavidJan 5, 2006 11:2831104
Mr. Sharon [380 words]James BigaJan 5, 2006 11:2631103
A prayer for Sharon [39 words]Michael ByrneJan 5, 2006 10:4131100
Arik [230 words]John W. McGinleyJan 5, 2006 10:3731099
Israel government..next PM [193 words]kim segarJan 5, 2006 10:1931098
WHY BEAT AROUND THE BUSH (I MEAN PERETZ)? [46 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Sam LivingstonJan 5, 2006 09:4131096
He led confused Jews down the deadly path of self-delusion [303 words]Ezra Ben-ShalomJan 5, 2006 08:5631093
I whole heartedly agree with Ezra BenShaloms observations [94 words]Seamus MacNemiJan 9, 2006 23:1431093
Commendable insight [193 words]Steve KleinJan 5, 2006 08:3531091

Follow Daniel Pipes

Facebook   Twitter   RSS   Join Mailing List

All materials by Daniel Pipes on this site: © 1968-2024 Daniel Pipes. daniel.pipes@gmail.com and @DanielPipes

Support Daniel Pipes' work with a tax-deductible donation to the Middle East Forum.Daniel J. Pipes

(The MEF is a publicly supported, nonprofit organization under section 501(c)3 of the Internal Revenue Code.

Contributions are tax deductible to the full extent allowed by law. Tax-ID 23-774-9796, approved Apr. 27, 1998.

For more information, view our IRS letter of determination.)