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Wishful thinking
Reader comment on item: [The Hamas Electoral Victory:] Democracy's Bitter Fruit
Submitted by Edward Margulies, M.D. (United States), Jan 27, 2006 at 10:48
THE ARTICLE IS VERY THOUGHTFUL, BUT I AM AFRAID THAT THE LAST PARAGRAPH IS WISHFUL THINKING. WHAT GIVES YOU THE IDEA THAT THE EUROPEANS WILL EVER TAKE A PRO-ISRAELI ATTITUDE, AND NOT FIND SOME RATIONALIZATION FOR SUPPORTING THE PALESTINIANS UNDER HAMAS?Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments".
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| 1 | Response to your statements about the Quran [90 words] | Incognito | Jan 30, 2009 09:50 | 149518 | |
| 1 |  11 not 10 wives [133 words] | aslam shahid | Jun 10, 2009 06:37 | 149518 | |
| Palestinian Authority Economically Non Viable [127 words] | David Goshen | Apr 20, 2006 14:54 | 43664 | ||
| Praise to Allah (God) for this awesome article of yours. [16 words] | Ahmed Youssif, MD | Feb 6, 2006 00:53 | 33895 | ||
| chavez you are right, [13 words] | Sathyan A John | Mar 7, 2006 09:31 | 33895 | ||
| Rethinking Democracy [126 words] | GaryK51188 | Feb 4, 2006 18:40 | 33778 | ||
| Democracy, terrorist & idiots [430 words] | ko | Feb 2, 2006 01:36 | 33472 | ||
| Deputy assistant to the President claims Hamas victory not a failure of democracy [1691 words] | Ben van de Polder | Feb 1, 2006 22:06 | 33465 | ||
| It is not the crucible [200 words] | yuval brandstetter MD | Feb 5, 2006 08:28 | 33465 | ||
| Why is the West blind to the underlying reasons?? [186 words] | Hooman | Feb 1, 2006 17:16 | 33443 | ||
| 1 | Give Hamas a chance [235 words] | Galal Mohammedi | Feb 1, 2006 13:53 | 33413 | |
| yes, you're right...but... [102 words] | italian | Feb 1, 2006 15:34 | 33413 | ||
| Mr. Galal Mohammedi is to be congratulated [12 words] | chester spink | Jun 18, 2007 22:31 | 33413 | ||
| 1 | The 'moderate Muslim ' is a poliitcal artifact [203 words] | Paul Christopher | Feb 1, 2006 06:55 | 33376 | |
| Arabs, Nazis, and de-Nazification [292 words] | Michael Greengard | Jan 31, 2006 13:47 | 33285 | ||
| Arab Nazi who served in extermination camp - member of Palestinisn-Syrian nationalists group Nazi helpers [290 words] | Vic | Nov 5, 2021 01:21 | 33285 | ||
| Palestinian Authority flatters tri-generational Eichmann inspired terrorist family [418 words] | Jerry | Nov 6, 2021 22:00 | 33285 | ||
| This is one of your best articles [43 words] | John Barrett | Jan 30, 2006 20:04 | 33182 | ||
| hamas won the election now we have to find ways to communicate [193 words] | richard E | Jan 30, 2006 14:55 | 33128 | ||
| we have to find ways to communicate... Hamas, you won democratically, so kill me democratically! [308 words] | Ianus | Jan 30, 2006 18:55 | 33128 | ||
| Democracy to Theocratic Dictatorship [149 words] | joe | Jan 31, 2006 17:01 | 33128 | ||
| When Will We Learn Not to Meddle [128 words] | Alice Lillie | Jan 30, 2006 09:42 | 33100 | ||
| Re : America Would Still Be Attacked Even If We Did Not Meddle [61 words] | AnneM | Jan 30, 2006 16:41 | 33100 | ||
| Do not fall for al Qaeda propaganda [429 words] | Sidda | Jan 31, 2006 09:41 | 33100 | ||
| Do not fall for al Qaeda propaganda [84 words] | Ianus | Jan 31, 2006 15:59 | 33100 | ||
| Israeli Dhimmis [69 words] | Sidda | Feb 1, 2006 09:08 | 33100 | ||
| Israeli Dhimmis [211 words] | Ianus | Feb 1, 2006 19:12 | 33100 | ||
| Democracy Only works when the people create it [428 words] | Joe | Jan 29, 2006 23:10 | 33066 | ||
| A new Hamas "state" [118 words] | Pigfoot | Jan 29, 2006 21:12 | 33061 | ||
| The Hamas election - a possible victory for the West? [615 words] | ron thompson | Jan 29, 2006 15:49 | 33030 | ||
| Hamas's Election Victory [300 words] | Ed Gordon | Jan 29, 2006 13:01 | 33018 | ||
| Bush reaction to Hamas victory - does the shoe fit? [209 words] | Gunther Steinberg | Jan 29, 2006 12:55 | 33017 | ||
| Question [86 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | William Schnitz | Jan 29, 2006 10:18 | 33006 | ||
| that pithy comment: Watch Hamas rebrand [504 words] | Jane | Jan 29, 2006 08:13 | 32993 | ||
| Stability is not the answer [144 words] | Yossi Ben-Aharon | Jan 29, 2006 07:56 | 32992 | ||
| Democracy Now? [225 words] | John Randall Peacher | Jan 29, 2006 07:13 | 32990 | ||
| West must cross the arms in front of Hamas [96 words] | Italian | Jan 29, 2006 04:33 | 32983 | ||
| 2 | Europe its going down like the Titanic [362 words] | Oc | Jan 29, 2006 02:15 | 32977 | |
| wrong [177 words] | ali | Oct 6, 2008 05:00 | 32977 | ||
| America is digging hard it's own grave. [228 words] | F. Shakki | Jan 29, 2006 00:11 | 32970 | ||
| Non sequitur - Hamas and Democracy [37 words] | Marc Handelsman | Jan 28, 2006 23:08 | 32968 | ||
| Faulty Assumptions Paralyze Israel and the West [243 words] | Joel Hammer | Jan 28, 2006 17:34 | 32958 | ||
| Islam' s 1400 year success Story [99 words] | Elephant Walk | Jan 28, 2006 14:35 | 32950 | ||
| Can Democracy Save the Middle East? [255 words] | Frank Vosler | Jan 28, 2006 13:57 | 32948 | ||
| JIhad and Islam [333 words] | Vinodgupt | Jan 29, 2006 12:28 | 32948 | ||
| War on Propaganda [144 words] | Stephan Benedict | Jan 28, 2006 11:34 | 32936 | ||
| No one saw this coming, why not? [313 words] | Kenneth S. Besig | Jan 28, 2006 11:32 | 32935 | ||
| To Mr. Bezig [39 words] | RB | Jan 29, 2006 14:04 | 32935 | ||
| Defeating Jihad [132 words] | Frank Vosler | Jan 28, 2006 10:56 | 32928 | ||
| Defeating islam [312 words] | ed | Jan 29, 2006 13:10 | 32928 | ||
| Ed, open your eyes [188 words] | joe | Jan 29, 2006 23:23 | 32928 | ||
| Eyes wide Open [259 words] | ed | Jan 31, 2006 17:25 | 32928 | ||
| Eyes wide Open ... minds too. [504 words] | Ianus | Feb 1, 2006 17:54 | 32928 | ||
| More like close minded [679 words] | ed | Feb 2, 2006 08:35 | 32928 | ||
| RE ed [676 words] | joe | Feb 2, 2006 18:21 | 32928 | ||
| Islam as mental crippling [1700 words] | Ianus | Feb 2, 2006 20:13 | 32928 | ||
| Ianus, you absolutely GOT IT. Hey Light, Get thee to Gehenna [214 words] | joe | Feb 3, 2006 02:56 | 32928 | ||
| Re Joe [538 words] | ed | Feb 3, 2006 10:07 | 32928 | ||
| From Dark to light [185 words] | ed | Feb 3, 2006 10:36 | 32928 | ||
| re: ed [381 words] | Joe | Feb 3, 2006 18:52 | 32928 | ||
| Joe, your opinion counts doubly. [287 words] | Ianus | Feb 4, 2006 06:38 | 32928 | ||
| 2 | "Homo sapiens' versus 'homo Islamicus' [686 words] | Ianus | Feb 4, 2006 07:43 | 32928 | |
| re re: Joe [952 words] | ed | Feb 4, 2006 16:30 | 32928 | ||
| Ed, Ed, Ed... [665 words] | Joe | Feb 6, 2006 18:44 | 32928 | ||
| Three times like the candy man [1299 words] | ed | Feb 7, 2006 12:15 | 32928 | ||
| reaction [189 words] | Sara | Nov 2, 2011 07:39 | 32928 | ||
| Hamas winning is a good thing. [204 words] | Paul B | Jan 28, 2006 10:10 | 32922 | ||
| Pros & Cons of this new management [82 words] | B. Alotaibi | Jan 29, 2006 14:26 | 32922 | ||
| Hamas [1416 words] | Sameer Jordan | Jan 28, 2006 08:38 | 32916 | ||
| German/Japan Models [108 words] | Paul M. Neville | Jan 28, 2006 07:31 | 32912 | ||
| If ever there was a Declaration of war, this is is! [55 words] | Victor Lipshutz | Jan 28, 2006 07:30 | 32911 | ||
| The Will of the People [286 words] | Jon | Jan 28, 2006 05:13 | 32899 | ||
| Muslim world is heading for confrontation [474 words] | Amitabh tripathi | Jan 28, 2006 03:57 | 32896 | ||
| we are all missing the point [216 words] | Guy | Jan 28, 2006 03:18 | 32893 | ||
| West's dependence on dodgy regimes [156 words] | Mike | Jan 30, 2006 09:30 | 32893 | ||
| Hitler's "Election" [71 words] | P John Weir | Jan 28, 2006 01:44 | 32883 | ||
| A history by the winner [129 words] | Harrak | Jan 28, 2006 10:53 | 32883 | ||
| A history by the winner?... Muslim history! [626 words] | Ianus | Jan 31, 2006 08:28 | 32883 | ||
| Real electoral victory or debacle ? [244 words] | NENETTE GRUNBERG | Jan 28, 2006 00:19 | 32876 | ||
| Ask why [207 words] | Hisham | Jan 28, 2006 00:15 | 32873 | ||
| Let's end our foreign aid. [46 words] | Vivian E. Wolfe | Jan 28, 2006 00:01 | 32871 | ||
| Conclusion correct; analysis dubious [183 words] | Melvin A. Fechter | Jan 27, 2006 23:42 | 32869 | ||
| Hamas and Democracy [167 words] | Bill Storey | Jan 27, 2006 23:08 | 32868 | ||
| Hamas: The legacy of the Bush/Clinton failure [183 words] | Thomas Earl Cannady | Jan 27, 2006 22:27 | 32867 | ||
| Dictatorship failed, can democracy be any worse? [215 words] | Pat | Jan 27, 2006 22:18 | 32866 | ||
| No Surprise [109 words] | Darwin Barrett | Jan 27, 2006 20:39 | 32861 | ||
| What Hoist? [247 words] | Peter G Jones | Jan 27, 2006 19:46 | 32859 | ||
| What Hoist? [70 words] | Ianus | Jan 28, 2006 07:34 | 32859 | ||
| In victory brings the responsibilities of governance [208 words] | jack adams | Jan 27, 2006 19:39 | 32858 | ||
| The defeat of reason in the Middle East. [65 words] | robert fink | Jan 27, 2006 19:35 | 32857 | ||
| The Hamas Victory [174 words] | Yale Zussman | Jan 27, 2006 18:35 | 32830 | ||
| The consequence of a Hamas Victory [203 words] | Seamus MacNemi | Jan 27, 2006 18:26 | 32827 | ||
| Terrorist tail wags the Israeli dog: HAMAS [167 words] | Mark-Alan Whittle | Jan 27, 2006 17:46 | 32817 | ||
| Finally a realistic "authority" in the PA [143 words] | mike in Lansdowne | Jan 27, 2006 17:41 | 32816 | ||
| Swapping places? [148 words] | Ianus | Jan 31, 2006 09:17 | 32816 | ||
| The more things change the more they stay the same [334 words] | John W. McGinley | Jan 27, 2006 17:39 | 32815 | ||
| Germany was a democracy before WWII [47 words] | Dave Kessinger | Jan 27, 2006 17:07 | 32813 | ||
| 1 | Terrorism is built in Islam [148 words] | N. Khan | Jan 27, 2006 16:41 | 32804 | |
| West is fooling itself [119 words] | Vinodgupt | Jan 27, 2006 17:46 | 32804 | ||
| Re: Terrorism is built in Islam [660 words] | R. | Jan 27, 2006 19:25 | 32804 | ||
| accept the freedom and democracy with all your heart ..long live hamas [88 words] | mohammad the muslim | Jan 28, 2006 04:06 | 32804 | ||
| Response to R, muslim translations are mostly politically correct [633 words] | N.Khan | Jan 30, 2006 15:58 | 32804 | ||
| How many radical muslims are there? [71 words] | Karla | Jan 27, 2006 16:35 | 32794 | ||
| How many radical muslims are there? or on depicting Islam [108 words] | Ianus | Jan 27, 2006 18:21 | 32794 | ||
| Re: Why Should Christians Care? [70 words] | J Pincus | Jan 27, 2006 16:31 | 32786 | ||
| No Aid for Palestinians [145 words] | Romesh Chander | Jan 27, 2006 16:09 | 32782 | ||
| israels hand forced [67 words] | harry oconnor | Jan 27, 2006 18:39 | 32782 | ||
| RE: israels hand forced [101 words] | Ianus | Jan 28, 2006 16:46 | 32782 | ||
| Palistnians called the bluff. [166 words] | Rench | Jan 27, 2006 16:02 | 32780 | ||
| Palestinian voters, the product of Arafat [104 words] | Tommy | Jan 27, 2006 15:24 | 32774 | ||
| Why should Christians Care ? [293 words] | Jeff Burke | Jan 27, 2006 14:59 | 32769 | ||
| Re: Jeff Burke's remarks [355 words] | John W. McGinley | Jan 28, 2006 16:27 | 32769 | ||
| ISRAEL - PEACE - SURVIVAL, NOT GENOCIDE! [re: Carter] [4412 words] | Al | Nov 20, 2007 03:26 | 32769 | ||
| Hamas victory [126 words] | steven l | Jan 27, 2006 14:50 | 32766 | ||
| No to appeasement [195 words] | Jason Pappas | Jan 27, 2006 14:47 | 32765 | ||
| Hamas, terror [19 words] | steven l | Jan 27, 2006 15:18 | 32765 | ||
| You are right about Hamas [138 words] | Muriel Efron | Jan 27, 2006 14:45 | 32764 | ||
| When the petard is hoist, not only the engineer may be injured [187 words] | Gunther H. Schiff | Jan 27, 2006 14:28 | 32762 | ||
| What can West show Palestinians? [178 words] | Boris | Jan 27, 2006 14:22 | 32761 | ||
| Hello? Hello? Planet earth? Is there any intelligent life here? [270 words] | PDM | Jan 27, 2006 13:53 | 32759 | ||
| Meet the New Boss. Same as the Old Boss [102 words] | Elliot | Jan 27, 2006 13:53 | 32758 | ||
| Facing a State of Hate [154 words] | Chris Bischof | Jan 27, 2006 13:47 | 32757 | ||
| Democracy & Islam [321 words] | Ibrodsky | Jan 27, 2006 13:45 | 32756 | ||
| 'Moderate muslim' [93 words] | Romesh Chander | Jan 27, 2006 14:57 | 32756 | ||
| 'Moderate muslim' [42 words] | Ianus | Jan 27, 2006 18:08 | 32756 | ||
| Peace after total defeat of islamists [49 words] | B. Alotaibi | Jan 27, 2006 13:43 | 32755 | ||
| Hamas/Islam [195 words] | Paul Rinderle | Jan 27, 2006 13:32 | 32754 | ||
| Election of HAMAS [36 words] | A.A. | Jan 27, 2006 13:29 | 32753 | ||
| Hamas election [516 words] | Merl Francis Kimmel | Jan 27, 2006 13:29 | 32752 | ||
| Re Hamas Election [573 words] | Ed | Jan 27, 2006 18:06 | 32752 | ||
| Re Hamas Elections [71 words] | Ed_nur | Jan 27, 2006 18:13 | 32752 | ||
| "the heaviest chains' ... or a slave's eulogy of slavery [239 words] | Ianus | Jan 28, 2006 10:39 | 32752 | ||
| Re Hamas Election or a syllogism [124 words] | Ianus | Jan 28, 2006 12:54 | 32752 | ||
| Renan [608 words] | Ed Nur | Jan 28, 2006 21:20 | 32752 | ||
| Renan or "research" [998 words] | Ianus | Jan 29, 2006 18:21 | 32752 | ||
| Ed Nur's confusion [657 words] | Merl Francis Kimmel | Jan 29, 2006 20:34 | 32752 | ||
| Neither, Infinite Knowledge [866 words] | ed | Jan 31, 2006 19:38 | 32752 | ||
| The light of faith or the obscurity of knowledge [2213 words] | Ianus | Feb 1, 2006 09:35 | 32752 | ||
| love not hate [1004 words] | Ed | Feb 2, 2006 07:30 | 32752 | ||
| Stupid pagans, wise Moslems ... an idyll [563 words] | Ianus | Feb 2, 2006 20:58 | 32752 | ||
| wise ed [164 words] | ed | Feb 3, 2006 11:09 | 32752 | ||
| Wise ed... stupid Ianus ...or on honest farewells [723 words] | Ianus | Feb 4, 2006 09:12 | 32752 | ||
| The Hamas Electoral Victory: Democracy's bitter fruit [95 words] | Menahem Dunsky | Jan 27, 2006 13:20 | 32750 | ||
| Hamas, etc. [64 words] | Dave Mitchell | Jan 27, 2006 13:18 | 32749 | ||
| Hamas Electoral Victory-The Missing Factor in the Analysis [107 words] | JA | Jan 27, 2006 13:04 | 32747 | ||
| Yes, It Is Islam [169 words] | Mike Ramirez | Jan 27, 2006 13:04 | 32746 | ||
| misinformation and misconception about ISlam [279 words] | Aslam Shahid | Jun 4, 2009 09:31 | 32746 | ||
| INCITEMENT for DUMMIES [47 words] | Bob Breslauer | Jan 27, 2006 12:53 | 32744 | ||
| disagree [204 words] | Dan | Jan 27, 2006 12:53 | 32743 | ||
| He was NOT voted in. [299 words] | Paul Mason | Jan 27, 2006 12:52 | 32742 | ||
| Clarity [76 words] | Yaakov Watkins | Jan 27, 2006 12:50 | 32740 | ||
| Hamas and Democracy [87 words] | Romesh Chander | Jan 27, 2006 12:49 | 32739 | ||
| Hamas [10 words] | Joe Robinson | Jan 27, 2006 12:26 | 32736 | ||
| Remeber Weimar [242 words] | Frank Adam | Jan 27, 2006 12:26 | 32735 | ||
| Remember Weimar [175 words] | Ianus | Jan 27, 2006 16:04 | 32735 | ||
| Yes, but....Jihad [586 words] | Thomas W. Mills | Jan 27, 2006 12:11 | 32734 | ||
| No Peace [371 words] | howlin | Jan 27, 2006 12:08 | 32733 | ||
| A good result [321 words] | Victor Purinton | Jan 27, 2006 12:04 | 32732 | ||
| The dumbing down of democracy [515 words] | jane | Jan 27, 2006 12:04 | 32731 | ||
| Crush them like Nazis [75 words] | [The Hamas electoral victory:] Democracy's bitter fruit | Jan 27, 2006 11:56 | 32730 | ||
| But what about... [216 words] | David Hodges | Jan 27, 2006 11:56 | 32729 | ||
| What about this? [111 words] | David W. Lincoln | Jan 27, 2006 11:52 | 32728 | ||
| Hamas victory and elections [356 words] | Vinodgupt | Jan 27, 2006 11:50 | 32727 | ||
| peace [304 words] | abd_abdal | Jan 27, 2006 17:58 | 32727 | ||
| If peace is war,slavery is freedom, then Islam is tolerance. [470 words] | Ianus | Jan 28, 2006 07:07 | 32727 | ||
| Jesus was recogonized only after his departure [119 words] | abd_abdal | Jan 29, 2006 15:12 | 32727 | ||
| Rewarding Terror [131 words] | Jeff | Jan 27, 2006 11:50 | 32726 | ||
| Slow down? or move faster. [88 words] | Steve K. | Jan 27, 2006 11:43 | 32725 | ||
| Nothing has changed! [296 words] | John | Jan 27, 2006 11:39 | 32724 | ||
| Iran is more of a threat than Hamas [20 words] | meredith | Jan 28, 2006 09:14 | 32724 | ||
| agree on all except 2 points [238 words] | Harrak | Jan 27, 2006 11:37 | 32723 | ||
| If only! [155 words] | keith | Jan 27, 2006 17:59 | 32723 | ||
| It is not Islam [323 words] | Steve Klein | Jan 27, 2006 11:28 | 32721 | ||
| Financial aid to Hamas? [45 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Leonard Boasberg | Jan 27, 2006 11:21 | 32719 | ||
| allow hamas to grow! [166 words] | david bryan | Jan 27, 2006 11:14 | 32716 | ||
| Too soon to tell.......... [101 words] | Drew | Jan 27, 2006 11:11 | 32715 | ||
| The Silver Lining [396 words] | J Harris | Jan 27, 2006 11:02 | 32712 | ||
| Which way now? [202 words] | Robert Sherer | Jan 27, 2006 11:02 | 32711 | ||
| 1933 Redux [76 words] | Ben Kurtzer | Jan 27, 2006 10:50 | 32710 | ||
| Democracies do make war on each other [121 words] | Melvin Hinich | Jan 27, 2006 10:48 | 32709 | ||
| Hinich and History [120 words] | Walter | Jan 27, 2006 15:35 | 32709 | ||
| Hinich and History ...or on warlike democracies [305 words] | Ianus | Jan 27, 2006 16:28 | 32709 | ||
| More on Hinich; Respone to Ianus [88 words] | Walter | Jan 29, 2006 08:38 | 32709 | ||
| Democracies do make war on each other [833 words] | Ianus | Jan 29, 2006 16:42 | 32709 | ||
 Wishful thinking [41 words] | Edward Margulies, M.D. | Jan 27, 2006 10:48 | 32708 | ||
| With Respect Mr. Pipes, I disagree [120 words] | Arnold J. Wolf | Jan 27, 2006 10:45 | 32707 | ||
| RESPONSE TO HAMAS [144 words] | DONVAN | Jan 27, 2006 10:44 | 32706 | ||
| Islam is the problem [54 words] | Donna | Jan 27, 2006 10:24 | 32705 | ||
| islam is not the problem [113 words] | ed | Jan 31, 2006 18:03 | 32705 | ||
| Hamas & Iran [37 words] | Gary Miller | Jan 27, 2006 10:16 | 32703 | ||
| A Nation of ....... [224 words] | John | Jan 27, 2006 10:04 | 32701 | ||
| The true nature of the Arabs [154 words] | Michael Savitt | Jan 27, 2006 09:54 | 32698 | ||
| Things to come [125 words] | Abraham | Jan 27, 2006 09:34 | 32696 | ||
| Muslims and democracy [425 words] | S. Petrea | Jan 30, 2006 00:43 | 32696 |
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