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Muslim Taxi Drivers in Minneapolis:
Reader comment on item: More on Those Alcohol-shy Taxi Drivers
in response to reader comment: Islam, The taxi driver and my six-pack
Submitted by ELROY J. SHAFER (United States), Jan 27, 2007 at 16:29
It appears that those taxi drivers are not as devoted to the precepts of Islam as they would have you believe. Were they to read the various pujblished "hadiths" as any true doctrinaire should, they would find the Hadith that counsels "that if it is none of your busines, keep your nose out of it"
Admittedly, these are not the precise words but the meaning is unquestionable. E.J.S.
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| 1 | Hypocrite mongol muslims enjoy hard drinking!!! [172 words] | Muslimk*** | May 23, 2010 04:05 | 173254 | |
 Next time Holy Cross will not be allowed [56 words] | Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthi | Sep 12, 2010 11:35 | 173254 | ||
| Judge a book by the cover? [58 words] | benladen | Dec 31, 2010 12:14 | 173254 | ||
| Book cover has different /deceiving words and some other text [110 words] | Ravi | Jan 3, 2011 05:07 | 173254 | ||
| 1 | Well the easy solution is to allow in many many more muslims to the West, then this type of discrimination will seem normal. ..May .2010 [145 words] | Phil Greend | May 16, 2010 12:47 | 172745 | |
| deport them [54 words] | j davis | Dec 31, 2009 18:20 | 166638 | ||
| Being a Muslim is not a crime [72 words] | faisal ahmed | Jul 13, 2009 12:30 | 158800 | ||
| 1 | NOT BEING A MUSLIM IS NOT A CRIME EITHER! [50 words] | Abu Nudnik | Jul 16, 2009 17:49 | 158800 | |
| Being a muslim is not a crime. [35 words] | Guardiansoz | May 25, 2010 19:03 | 158800 | ||
| Please understand not being a Muslim is also no crime [43 words] | Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthi | Sep 12, 2010 11:25 | 158800 | ||
| 1 | Ironically [100 words] | John Philips | Sep 10, 2008 05:05 | 138222 | |
| AMERICAN-ISLAMIC RELATIONS [96 words] | knightrider | Aug 6, 2008 06:42 | 136345 | ||
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| 1 | A more pro-active solution is called for [201 words] | Mitch | May 29, 2007 18:45 | 95166 | |
| 13 | This is Jihad [181 words] | Ravi | Jan 3, 2011 05:25 | 95166 | |
| Never met a Muslim who didn't drink alcohol [105 words] | Mac | May 9, 2007 21:57 | 92309 | ||
| Muslim drinking [127 words] | Prof. M. | Sep 11, 2007 22:19 | 92309 | ||
| FYI to my dear Friend Mac [124 words] | Fajri Al Kautsar | Sep 12, 2008 17:23 | 92309 | ||
| grandchild [150 words] | robbyn smith | Nov 29, 2008 17:28 | 92309 | ||
| Fajri Al Kautsar and Rahmatan Lil Alamiin (Kindness to the Universe) [611 words] | Guardiansoz | May 25, 2010 19:27 | 92309 | ||
| Fajri Al Kautsar and Rahmatan Lil Alamiin (Kindness to the Universe) [60 words] | Guardiansoz | May 25, 2010 19:31 | 92309 | ||
| Thanks Dr. Pipes [75 words] | MelM | Apr 23, 2007 00:12 | 90267 | ||
| A Letter to MAC [141 words] | Ynnatchkah | Apr 20, 2007 13:42 | 89945 | ||
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| The Minnesota saga expands to checkout cashiers and pork [1 words] | J Greene | Mar 14, 2007 14:59 | 86291 | ||
| Next the Airlines? [47 words] | Betty | Mar 4, 2007 11:54 | 80094 | ||
| Everyone carry a bottle! [100 words] | Justin Kase | Mar 3, 2007 19:19 | 79993 | ||
| minnesota muslims [54 words] | Donna | Mar 19, 2007 12:31 | 79993 | ||
| Muslim Taxi Drivers [18 words] | Greyops | Mar 1, 2007 20:19 | 79620 | ||
| 1 | Alien Taxi Drivers Who Are anti-American, Are Only The Latest Outrage [798 words] | mariana | Mar 1, 2007 00:04 | 79457 | |
| re:mariana's thoughts [19 words] | snakesavage | Mar 2, 2007 02:06 | 79457 | ||
| To Mariana [260 words] | Ynna (tchkah) | Mar 2, 2007 16:10 | 79457 | ||
| To SNAKESAVAGE. I was thinking about that, and did cut half the caps out. [97 words] | mariana | Mar 2, 2007 18:54 | 79457 | ||
| To Ynna. Thank you. [1266 words] | mariana | Mar 2, 2007 22:25 | 79457 | ||
| Some Points. [807 words] | Ynnatchkah | Mar 4, 2007 05:37 | 79457 | ||
| Ynnatchkah: Loved yours too; sick to death of almost all things California, but there are more important things in life. [1082 words] | mariana | Mar 6, 2007 15:07 | 79457 | ||
| Maybe a good idea? [615 words] | Edward | Feb 24, 2007 12:28 | 78669 | ||
| Just wondering if the relation and insistence is somehow linked to Ellison [109 words] | Ynna | Feb 24, 2007 03:23 | 78610 | ||
| Booze and the Twins [23 words] | Jacques Bakke | Feb 23, 2007 23:09 | 78588 | ||
| A problem in many fields [89 words] | Kevin | Feb 23, 2007 15:22 | 78540 | ||
| Filthy Infidels [49 words] | NW Denizen | Feb 23, 2007 15:17 | 78539 | ||
| And another example of people imposing their religion on good Americans... [81 words] | NotAHypocrite | Feb 23, 2007 15:14 | 78538 | ||
| Taxis + explosives = terrorist armed vehicles in Iraq [66 words] | Joe Egan | Feb 23, 2007 12:38 | 78504 | ||
| no to cab drivers. [22 words] | mika solami | Feb 22, 2007 22:29 | 78437 | ||
| somalis [12 words] | dowm | Apr 14, 2007 02:19 | 78437 | ||
| You're choosing the wrong fight [94 words] | an Ontarian | Feb 22, 2007 14:58 | 78364 | ||
| amazed [71 words] | usmc2493 | Feb 24, 2007 08:59 | 78364 | ||
| Alcohol, Minnesota and "certain Muslims" [80 words] | Stephane S Lubicz | Feb 22, 2007 14:57 | 78363 | ||
| Sharia & Alcohol [479 words] | Mordechai Ben-Menachem | Feb 22, 2007 10:30 | 78349 | ||
| Melting pot ...facing. [115 words] | M.D'Souza | Feb 21, 2007 11:10 | 78181 | ||
| I was in favor of stricter penalties but now oppose them [105 words] | Abu Schnorer | Feb 21, 2007 10:48 | 78178 | ||
| IT'S UP TO THE TAXI DRIVERS TO GET OTHER JOBS [281 words] | Sofa Sogood | Feb 21, 2007 20:34 | 78178 | ||
| Unlawfu but not illegal [164 words] | Abu Schnorer | Apr 5, 2007 19:17 | 78178 | ||
| Taxis & Alcohol in Minnesota [153 words] | Douglas E. Haslam | Feb 21, 2007 10:41 | 78174 | ||
| Those multi-cultural Taxi Drivers [530 words] | Les Lieberman | Feb 21, 2007 06:04 | 78149 | ||
| Watch This! [1077 words] | DeadMessenger | Dec 17, 2006 14:31 | 69783 | ||
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| Who handles the booze at Dubai Duty Free? [66 words] | Josh G. | Nov 26, 2006 12:38 | 67401 | ||
| Dubai knows how to handle Mullahs [184 words] | American Muslim | Nov 29, 2006 11:40 | 67401 | ||
| Even better way to handle muslims [111 words] | Roosevelt's Disciple | May 8, 2007 14:41 | 67401 | ||
| This has already gone beyond alcohol. [99 words] | Michael | Nov 26, 2006 07:46 | 67386 | ||
| If I were Mayor [20 words] | Paul | Nov 24, 2006 19:41 | 67229 | ||
| Question time [20 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Octavio Johanson | Nov 9, 2006 17:56 | 65692 | ||
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| What if the shoe were on the other foot [55 words] | Abarbanel | Nov 5, 2006 21:14 | 65337 | ||
| Islamophobia [42 words] | Octavio Johanson | Nov 3, 2006 18:59 | 65207 | ||
| no alcohol in "muslim" cabs [50 words] | JON PURIZHANSKY | Nov 2, 2006 18:22 | 65126 | ||
| Taxi Drivers [17 words] | Max Samuel | Oct 26, 2006 20:33 | 64580 | ||
| Who is the real culprit behind Minnesota taxi-jihad? Islamists at MAS!! [246 words] | Jaladhi | Oct 26, 2006 14:36 | 64557 | ||
| HACK License? [93 words] | Lori | Oct 24, 2006 23:14 | 64420 | ||
| Hackney Carriage...Hansom Cab [16 words] | Mark Garretson | Oct 26, 2006 13:59 | 64420 | ||
| Denver too... [92 words] | Scott Merker | Oct 19, 2006 22:29 | 62144 | ||
| Blue Light Taxis [20 words] | John | Oct 18, 2006 06:55 | 60822 | ||
| Go back to "No-Booze-istan". [848 words] | Dr Ken Goldberg | Oct 17, 2006 23:17 | 60786 | ||
| ISLAM, THE TAXI DRIVER, AND MY 6 PACK [372 words] | Louis Stouch | Oct 17, 2006 20:49 | 60768 | ||
| Islam, The taxi driver and my six-pack [208 words] | E.J. Shafer | Oct 25, 2006 15:56 | 60768 | ||
| Taxi drivers in Minesotta [134 words] | Christiana | Oct 26, 2006 00:19 | 60768 | ||
| Comment on Louis's post [102 words] | Romesh Chander | Nov 1, 2006 19:46 | 60768 | ||
 Muslim Taxi Drivers in Minneapolis: [68 words] | ELROY J. SHAFER | Jan 27, 2007 16:29 | 60768 | ||
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| I Agree, Doc.... [17 words] | Frummer | Oct 26, 2006 00:35 | 60752 | ||
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| You are absolutely right! [140 words] | Moshe | Oct 18, 2006 04:58 | 60729 | ||
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| American weapons vs. Russian weapons (Israeli civilians vs. Arab civilians) [392 words] | American Muslim | Oct 19, 2006 23:00 | 60729 | ||
| Krikorian, since you asked I will tell you what I meant by accommodation. [383 words] | Moshe | Oct 20, 2006 04:04 | 60729 | ||
| Round and round it goes... an eye for an eye making the whole world die [403 words] | Spar Krikorian | Oct 21, 2006 02:26 | 60729 | ||
| Typical conservative tactic of tarring anyone who dares to disagree with you [423 words] | Spar Krikorian | Oct 21, 2006 02:53 | 60729 | ||
| Krikorian, is time for YOU to chill out. [49 words] | Moshe | Oct 21, 2006 18:24 | 60729 | ||
| Dr. Qazi, why we don't see and hear more people like you? [61 words] | Moshe | Oct 22, 2006 10:30 | 60729 | ||
| History could be a baggage or a place to learn good lessons [589 words] | American Muslim | Oct 22, 2006 21:01 | 60729 | ||
| Re: Dr. Qazi, why we don't see and hear more people like you? [318 words] | American Muslim | Oct 24, 2006 22:25 | 60729 | ||
| Bound by Honor? [121 words] | Frummer | Oct 26, 2006 00:54 | 60729 | ||
| Reply to Dr. Qazi. [291 words] | Moshe | Oct 27, 2006 04:48 | 60729 | ||
| Excellent comment Frummer! [9 words] | Moshe | Oct 27, 2006 04:50 | 60729 | ||
| to moshe [42 words] | jon purizhansky | Nov 2, 2006 18:18 | 60729 | ||
| Dr. Qazi [22 words] | JON PURIZHANSKY | Nov 2, 2006 18:26 | 60729 | ||
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| A New York City Muslim Speaks (writes rather) [146 words] | Abu Sahajj | Oct 15, 2006 21:15 | 60020 | ||
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| We are talking about Public activities only [50 words] | Harry | Oct 16, 2006 19:51 | 60020 | ||
| Bus service [46 words] | Romesh Chander | Nov 1, 2006 20:12 | 60020 | ||
| Somali statistics and Snakes. [281 words] | Ron | Oct 12, 2006 12:19 | 60017 | ||
| Pots calling Kettles Black [194 words] | Fern | Oct 14, 2006 05:28 | 60017 | ||
| I think you need a miracle" [119 words] | fulaana | Aug 15, 2010 09:00 | 60017 | ||
| To Ron with no last name-words do heart People [68 words] | nuh adam | Aug 28, 2011 05:34 | 60017 | ||
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| So what? [51 words] | Q. | Oct 15, 2006 16:18 | 59973 | ||
| Wake up! [30 words] | Octavio Johanson | Oct 16, 2006 11:25 | 59973 | ||
| More on the English Experience [58 words] | Wanglese | Oct 16, 2006 17:58 | 59973 | ||
| Re: More on the English Experience [24 words] | Octavio Johanson | Oct 30, 2006 08:28 | 59973 | ||
| The Koran and Alcohol [154 words] | Safraz | Oct 12, 2006 00:46 | 59961 | ||
| The moderate muslim? [256 words] | caleb white | Oct 13, 2006 03:35 | 59961 | ||
| Reply to "Moderate Muslim" [479 words] | Safraz | Oct 15, 2006 22:07 | 59961 | ||
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| Daisy [273 words] | Safraz | Oct 22, 2006 23:16 | 59961 | ||
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