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Submitted by Krista (Canada), Aug 13, 2008 at 22:23

I read the following comment by MOHAMMAD, CPA

"I have NEVER, EVER heard any Adverse Comments on Holy Quran or the Prophet Muhammad(pbuh) from any Famous Writers or Historians from the West." –

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/136386

And your reply…

My thanks to Mohammed for his honesty, and sincerity. I can see you are truly an educated and wise man. I can also see that you have many attributes, of wisdom and patience, which can really make a difference in ones life.

http://www.danielpipes.org/comments/136267

And I was wondering how "honest and sincere" anyone can be about their holy book if they can only see perfection in it's writings.

The Aryan Church, inspired by Hitler, uses passages from the Bible.

I personally don't care what is written in a book unless it's words are used to justify intolerance and hate.

"A people are judged by their words and actions"… and today, when I look out my window, I see intolerance, mostly from one group who may or may not be lawful in their Jihad.

I have no doubt MOHAMMAD, CPA thinks of himself as a good and gentle person... Mohammad also will see conflict in terms of "moral equivalence"... They speak of the cycle of violence [as though walking into a resort in Bali and blowing it up had some sort of a beginning]... and they believe that the terrorism in the Middle is "justified" These people will not look further into the truth because it is convenient to blame those who are perceived as "rich and powerful". Mohammad may be a very nice neighbour to his Jewish friends in North America, but I know his political vote will not support Jews who want to live in peace in Israel.....

I would like to share this definition of the "modern" anti-Semite... I found it to be very good and recently sent it along to a Professor Keefer [9/11 Conspiracy supporter] and the President of his university...

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http://pajamasmedia.com/blog/anti-semitism-without-anti-semites/

"The modern anti-Semite looks entirely different. He does not have a shaved head. He has good manners and often an academic title as well. He mourns for the Jews who died in the Holocaust. But at the same time he wonders why the survivors and their descendants have learned nothing from history and today treat another people as badly as they were once treated themselves.

The modern anti-Semite does not believe in the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. But instead he fantasizes about an "Israel lobby" that is supposed to control American foreign policy like a tail that wags the dog. For the modern anti-Semite, it goes without saying that every year on January 27 he will commemorate the liberation of Auschwitz. But at the same time he militates for the right of Iran to have atomic weapons. For "how can one deny Iran what one has permitted Israel or Pakistan?" as Norman Paech [the foreign policy spokesperson of the German Left Party] has put it. Or he inverts the causal relationship and claims that it is Israel that is threatening Iran and not vice-versa — as [German Middle East scholar] Dr. Udo Steinbach did in a recent radio interview.

The modern anti-Semite finds ordinary anti-Semitism disgraceful. He has no problem, however, embracing anti-Zionism and is grateful for the opportunity to express his resentment in a politically correct form. For anti-Zionism is a sort of resentment just like classical anti-Semitism was. The anti-Zionist has the same attitude toward Israel as the anti-Semite has to Jews. He is not bothered by what Israel does or does not do, but rather by the fact that Israel exists. That is why he participates so passionately in debates about the solution to the Palestinian question — which could well mean a final solution for Israel. On the other hand, he is left indifferent by conditions in Darfur or Zimbabwe or Congo or Cambodia, because there are no Jews involved in those places. Ask the foreign policy spokesperson of the Left Party, for instance, how many statements he has issued about "Palestine" and how many about Tibet.

Earlier — let's say at the time of classical anti-Semites like Wilhelm Marr, Karl Lueger, and Adolf Stoecker — everything was plain and simple. There were Jews, there were anti-Semites, and there was anti-Semitism. After 1945, for the well-known reasons, we then had in Germany an anti-Semitism without Jews. And now today we are again confronted by a new phenomenon: an anti-Semitism without anti-Semites.

Another new phenomenon is the professional profile of what might be called the "leisure time anti-Semite" who does his regular job during the day, perhaps even in a federal government office, and then in his spare time writes "critical" texts on Israel that appear on obscure anti-Zionist websites. [The reference is to Ludwig Watzal, an official of Germany's Federal Office for Civic Education (BpB), many of whose articles have been reprinted on the site antimperialista.org. See here on Watzal. The BpB has resisted calls for Watzal's dismissal, arguing that the writings in question are not connected to his professional activity. — Translator's Note] Nobody wants to be an anti-Semite, but the "anti-Zionist" hall of shame is getting increasingly crowded.

Anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism are two sides of the same coin. If the anti-Semite was convinced that it is not him, the anti-Semite, who is to blame for anti-Semitism, but rather the Jew himself who is to blame, so too is the anti-Zionist convinced that Israel is responsible not only for the suffering of the Palestinians, but also for the hardship it suffers itself. The older persons among you will perhaps remember what a Green Party politician, who is still a member of the Bundestag, said about the Iraqi rockets that were fired at Israel at the time of the first Gulf War in 1991: "The Iraqi rocket attacks are the logical, nearly unavoidable consequence of Israeli policy." [The author of the quote is Green Party Member of Parliament Hans-Christian Ströbele. — Translator's Note] At the time, the same Green Party politician also opposed the delivery of defensive weapons like Patriot rockets to Israel, because this would, he claimed, lead to an escalation in the hostilities.

Today, some 17 years later, we hear similar remarks about rocket attacks on Israel from southern Lebanon or the Gaza Strip: namely, that they are the logical, nearly unavoidable result of Israeli occupation and that Israel would do well not to react in order to avoid escalating hostilities.

The modern anti-Semite pays tribute to Jews who have been dead for 60 years, but he resents it when living Jews take measures to defend themselves. He screams "Beware of the Beginnings!" when a handful of weekend Nazis hold a demonstration in Cottbus, but he justifies the policies of the current Iranian president and defends the continuation of German business with Iran.

Ladies and gentleman, we will not solve the problem of anti-Semitism: not at this hearing nor at the next. But the mere fact that you are discussing the issue — when there are also other and more pressing problems that need attention — is a good sign. If I may in all modesty make a suggestion: leave the good old anti-Semitism to the archaeologists and antiquarians and historians. Devote your attention to the modern anti-Semitism that wears the disguise of anti-Zionism and to its representatives. You will find some of the latter among your own ranks.

I thank you for listening."

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Arabs still want to destroy Israel [164 words]Debbie ShaferSep 8, 2008 19:42138151
mohammad [293 words]jonJan 24, 2013 07:16138151
Arabs still want to destroy Israel. response to Jon. [217 words]DebbieJan 24, 2013 20:05138151
Arabs still want to destroy Israel [109 words]Debbie ShaferAug 2, 2008 23:14136155
1ARAB COUNTRIES MUST ACCEPT THE REAL EXISTENCE OF ISRAELI STATE FOR 60 YEARS & MUST FIND A COMPROMISED FORMULA FOR A HONORABLE , PERMANENT SOLUTION TO THEIR DISPUTES. [362 words]Mohammad, CPAAug 15, 2008 13:40136155
Arab Countries must accept the real existence of Israel as a state, and find a comprimise formula [119 words]Debbie ShaferAug 15, 2008 16:17136155
Let the Children Live [249 words]Monika DoranJan 2, 2009 15:00136155
Power, Religion, Money, and Finatics- No thoughts for the children. [155 words]DebbieJan 2, 2009 23:10136155
israel [30 words]arabsNov 25, 2007 12:47114782
We don't lie too much [112 words]Mohamed AhmedSep 4, 2006 06:5054856
Does Israel want peace? [14 words]KristaJun 28, 2008 20:5154856
We Dont Lie too much--response to Mohamed [134 words]AnneJul 28, 2008 17:3054856
And the Israelis still want to destroy the Arabs [129 words]MohamedJul 30, 2008 18:1554856
re "And the Israelis still want to destroy the Arabs" [275 words]Debbie ShaferJul 31, 2008 13:2254856
Have you seen the damage caused by Israel [135 words]MohamedAug 1, 2008 05:4554856
Have you seen the Damage caused by Israel--respond to Mohamed [471 words]Debbie ShaferAug 1, 2008 19:2854856
HOW TO ESTABLISH PEACE BETWEEN ISRAEL & PALESTINE? [484 words]MohammadAug 2, 2008 04:4254856
How to Establish Peace between Israel and Palestine---Mohamed [160 words]Debbie ShaferAug 2, 2008 23:0754856
HOW TO ESTABLISH PEACE BETWEEN ISRAEL & PALESTINE. [614 words]Mohammad- Me not MohammedAug 4, 2008 04:0154856
How to Establish Peace between Israel and Palestine--Response to Mohammed [434 words]Debbie ShaferAug 4, 2008 15:4454856
HOW TO LOVE GOD- ALLAH & HIS CREATIONS INCLUDING HUMAN, ANIMALS, TREES, PLANTS+ OTHERS. [694 words]MohammadAug 6, 2008 23:2654856
How to love God-Allah and his creations, response to Mohammad [297 words]Debbie ShaferAug 7, 2008 17:5454856
MY REPLY ON HOW TO LOVE GOD-ALLAH & HIS CREATIONS INCLUDING HUMAN, ANIMAS, TREES, PLANTS +OTHERS. [187 words]MohammadAug 9, 2008 03:4154856
My Reply on How to Love God, Allah, and his creations, Including Humans,Animals, trees, and Others-Reply to Mohammed [109 words]Debbie ShaferAug 10, 2008 14:0654856
MY REPLY ON YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT MY HOLY QURAN. [1189 words]MOHAMMADAug 10, 2008 15:2154856
FOR THE INTEREST OF PALESTINE & PEACE IN THE REGION, ALL MUSLIM COUNTRIES SHOULD & MUST RECOGNIZE ISRAEL RIGHT TO EXIST & SHOULD IGNORE IRANIAN POLICY OF DESTABILIZING MIDDLE EAST. [414 words]MOHAMMAD, CPAAug 11, 2008 04:2154856
Missiles of the Palestinians are almost harmless [72 words]KristaAug 11, 2008 09:3854856
"But there is also bad Christians and Jews" [30 words]KristaAug 11, 2008 09:4154856
"Israeli State must accept the Right, Freedom & Dignity of Palestine people." [715 words]KristaAug 11, 2008 09:4954856
"Islam believes in Peace" [477 words]KristaAug 11, 2008 10:1354856
Koran [494 words]KristaAug 11, 2008 10:1654856
Koran, Arabs still want to destroy Israel in response to Krista [249 words]DebbieAug 11, 2008 19:1954856
For the Interest of Palestine and Peace in the region-response to Mohammed [315 words]AnneAug 11, 2008 19:4054856
Arabs still want to destroy Israel ...and then, other democracies... [1235 words]KristaAug 13, 2008 22:2354856
TRUTH MUST TRUMPH & FALSEHOOD/ IGNORANCE MUST VANISH. ISLAM IS FOR WELL EDUCATED PEOPLE, NOT FOR FANATICS OR IGNORANT PEOPLE. [270 words]Mohammad, CPAAug 13, 2008 22:3854856
Arabs still want to destroy Israel---response to Krista [528 words]Debbie ShaferAug 14, 2008 17:3254856
Truth must Trump Falsehood/ Ignorance must vanish [393 words]Mrs. AnneAug 14, 2008 18:0154856
IN HOLY QURAN, THERE NO SUCH THING AS "HONOR KILLING". IT IS A SERIOUS CRIME & MUST BE PUNISHED BY THE LAW OF EVERY COUNTRY. [504 words]Mohammad, CPAAug 15, 2008 04:1254856
In holy Quran there is no such thing as honor killing [413 words]Mrs. AnneAug 15, 2008 17:0054856
I STAND BY MY WORDS & PRACTICES. NOBODY IN THIS FREE WORLD CAN BUY ME WITH BILLION OF DOLLARS. [234 words]Mohammad, CPAAug 16, 2008 04:1454856
I stand by my words and practices--Response to Mohammed [144 words]Mrs. AnneAug 18, 2008 11:2354856
ALL THE BEST & HONEST PEOPLE OF THE WORLD MUST STAND AGAINST THE EVILS & HEINOUS CRIMINALS FOUND IN EVERY NATION. [332 words]Mohammad, CPAAug 18, 2008 15:5454856
All the best and Honest People of the World must stand against Evil [201 words]Mrs. AnneAug 19, 2008 16:1454856
ALRADY CROSSED THE RETIREMENT AGE. IT IS NOT SO EASY TO BE IN THIS FORUM REGULARLY. [385 words]Mohammad, CPASep 6, 2008 14:4454856
Already crossed the Retirement age-It is not easy to be in this Forum [195 words]Ms. AnneSep 8, 2008 19:2554856
1I HAVE LEARNT THE TRUTH FROM HOLY QURAN & MY PROPHET. IF SOME MISGUIDED MUSLIMS DO ANY THING AGAINST HOLY QURAN, THEY ARE ANSWERABLE TO MY ALLAH & MUST FACE THE SEVERE PUNISHMENT. [663 words]Mohammad, CPASep 13, 2008 14:3654856
I HAVE LEARNT THE TRUTH FROM HOLY QURAN AND MY PROPHET [218 words]Ms. AnneSep 14, 2008 12:1554856
Freedom [120 words]YasserDec 29, 2008 20:0654856
Barbaric ??? [146 words]LuciferJan 15, 2009 09:0254856
Arabs want to destroy israel- Why does Hamas constantly provoke Israel with Qassam Rockets?-response to Lucifer [219 words]DebbieJan 15, 2009 20:5554856
Response to Debbies response to Lucifer [750 words]LuciferJan 18, 2009 01:3854856
I answer to one person- The Almighty- Response to Lucifer [247 words]DebbieJan 19, 2009 17:0454856
"just cause" "root cause" [105 words]KristaJan 20, 2009 13:4254856
You need more love in your life [27 words]Zach B.Nov 17, 2009 12:2854856
Moderate Islam, a Western Alley or a Myth? No Stange but True. [366 words]Mohammad, CPAJan 9, 2010 03:4554856
if you want to understand... [138 words]mynameApr 15, 2010 18:3954856
If you want to Understand. I understand anti-semetism all right. [316 words]DebbieApr 17, 2010 09:1954856
A two-way approach to resolving the conflict... [98 words]Ivan YeoFeb 25, 2005 07:4520522
Bullies [186 words]Samuel AdamsNov 17, 2002 05:563980
I agree with your philosphy--Response to Samuel Adams- Bullies [239 words]AnneJan 19, 2009 18:553980
Arabs are justified [124 words]Mennat Allah HelmyJun 22, 2002 00:06901
Israel is Almighty God's Land [77 words]SebastianJun 28, 2008 11:28901
Time to Call Their Bluff! [69 words]Shirley Ann NewmanMay 21, 2002 04:09414
comment on article:"Arabs Still Want to Destroy Israel [7 words]Denice Gary PandolMay 2, 2002 204
I think d fighting and killings are political showoff [87 words]Adedayo AdeoniMar 16, 2010 10:49204
Let there be peace [60 words]Ayoade OmisadeSep 9, 2010 04:54204

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