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Moderate Islam doesn't exist but no harm in being optimistic

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Submitted by Amitabh Tripathi (India), Jan 12, 2010 at 03:52

For a long time I have been in dilemma on this debate of moderate Islam vs Radical Islam. Particularly when this debate was initiated by Dr Daniel Pipes whose words can not be dissmissed without giving a serious hearing. There is clear distinction between two school of thoughts on this issue one which believe that Islam itself is a problem and there is no possibility of a moderate stream within Islam. I personally feel the same way but Dr Daniel Pipes has agitated my thoughts to think from his persepective. For this reason I had to read his book " In the Path of God" again and in that reading I realised that Dr Pipes has come to this conclusion not because of any political correctness but he has arguments behind that and those arguments has weight and reson to accept them to some extent.

The whole concept of moderate Islam is based on future development on the projection of a world where prgamatism and freedom will require for values which would be more inclusive and cohesive and in this process there will be only option eiether lag behind in development or change yourself according to the time as happened in last few centuries in global politics.

In his book " In The Path of God" he has presented some irrefutable arguments how Islam had to change itself from its classical rigidity to accomodate others customs and traditions to make it pragmatic. Dr Pipes also believes that concpet of secularism will confine religion to only personal belief and it will evolve itself towards more spirituality rather than institutional effort to gain the power and become centre of power. His optimism has some valid reson to believe as since rennassaince the entire world gradually adopted the path of secularism and tried to keep religion away from state. In this process religion has become subject of personal belief and paith more than ever and call for more freedom and personal liberty in some way will guide the religion to play the role of spiritual upliftment for a person rather than an institution to play a role in state to make it relevent.

These arguments prove two things very prominently that Dr Daniel Pipes has not evolved the theory of radical Islam vs moderate Islam as an argument for political correctness and second thing as an historian there are ample scope to believe in his arguments and give a chance to his optimism.

Dr Daniel Pipes himself has said several times that he don't hope the evolution of moderate Islam all of sudden. In my personal belief moderate Islam is the process of radical change within Islam. In all its history Islam has been able to survive for two reasons, First, it has created a aura of its prophet Mohammad around it which people of others faiths were unable to break and invariably they accepted the legitimacy of Mohammad rahter than Allah.Second reason for Islam's survival was its ideology of Jihad which is still very much there.

On one hand For last five centuries when world tried to evolve a new world order where intellectualism, interprenureship and freedom will prevail on the other Islam outrightly rejected this world order and was able to intact its mohammdian legacy with medieval institutions and customs with lot of conspiracy theories to creat fear psycosis among its followers by portraying the modern phenomenon as a creation of Satan and Jews.

Jihad along with unbrekable faith create a perception for others that it would be better not to touch these people. If world want to evolve moderate Islam it has to defeat the myth of invincibility of its prophet.

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The Hermetically Sealed suras [80 words]Lawrence E. AlbaFeb 12, 2011 22:44182586
defeat the radicals and establish a reformed orthox branch as an attractor, the idea of doubt [422 words]mythJan 14, 2010 17:53167341
Islam in Moderation [319 words]ArlindaJan 12, 2010 09:14167232
1Moderate Islam doesn't exist but no harm in being optimistic [611 words]Amitabh TripathiJan 12, 2010 03:52167220
2your debate with Wafa Sultan [1150 words]E WiegerJan 6, 2010 19:39166946
thanks [832 words]WatcherJan 5, 2010 18:49166878
1Islam is a Political System [32 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
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Question [9 words]Peter HerzJan 14, 2010 11:21166801
1The West's Wishful Thinking [78 words]ZakJan 2, 2010 12:55166729
Few problems [230 words]VK TiwariJan 2, 2010 01:35166695
Wishful thinking [125 words]The PouchJan 1, 2010 04:31166655
Moderate Islam: Western Ally or Western Myth? [58 words]steven LDec 31, 2009 21:56166644
Re: Regarding the Debate [381 words]Sudad JawadDec 31, 2009 08:12166616
Islam and its future [1677 words]dhimmi no moreJan 3, 2010 09:12166616
Rewriting Islam [130 words]ZakJan 4, 2010 12:28166616
but yet [38 words]DayyaanJan 25, 2010 10:15166616
Islam and the sira and other sordid things [159 words]dhimmi no moreJan 26, 2010 07:15166616
Madame Soltane [30 words]Bibi LapuréeDec 30, 2009 14:09166567
Mohammed the mould [77 words]Jim BeamDec 30, 2009 00:15166521
Two kinds of Islam [385 words]P.K.Dec 29, 2009 17:11166506
I fear Wafa S. is closer to the truth, but I see a way to synthesize your positions [152 words]Charles MartelDec 29, 2009 16:00166504
Moderate Islam/Muslims, a myth created by Western Islamic apologists!!! [198 words]JaladhiDec 29, 2009 14:00166495
moderate Islam??? [171 words]Paul WinterDec 29, 2009 08:02166471
Islam will moderate only when defanged [103 words]yuval Brandstetter MDDec 30, 2009 16:28166471
reality [23 words]Silvio SperberDec 28, 2009 23:57166448
Great debate [159 words]Rebecca MouldsDec 28, 2009 22:54166439
Is There Moderate Islam? [67 words]Ilbert PhillipsDec 28, 2009 22:46166437
Mr. Berg argued similarly [160 words]Abu NudnikDec 28, 2009 21:27166430
Islam can change [538 words]LadyDec 28, 2009 20:50166423
dont teach islam [14 words]bary soetoroDec 30, 2009 00:51166423
Judeo-Chrisitianity is just as bad [164 words]Charles RipleyDec 30, 2009 19:02166423
Gus Dur: one of a moderate and good muslim [560 words]LadyDec 30, 2009 22:57166423
According to the Bible Christians must kill.........????????? [310 words]Jim BeamDec 31, 2009 17:39166423
Judeo-Christianity is just as bad [94 words]Bernard BairdJan 8, 2010 07:12166423
Ajtp [9 words]mustafaJan 16, 2010 03:07166423
Quran's verses versus "Moderation". [90 words]Charles GriffithDec 28, 2009 20:43166420
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Moderate Islam [123 words]KEN PERLMANDec 28, 2009 19:19166406
islamism [51 words]rodney allsworthDec 28, 2009 18:56166402
To give a chance to moderate muslims to change their own brothers [159 words]LadyDec 28, 2009 21:04166402
Thanks for the Update [36 words]P V ArielDec 28, 2009 23:51166402
Only one Islam - radical!!! [124 words]JaladhiDec 29, 2009 17:12166402
Muslim will change you [50 words]bary soetoroDec 30, 2009 23:36166402
there is something to debate: authority [95 words]mythJan 14, 2010 18:02166402
Myth: That is the problem [108 words]LadyJan 17, 2010 05:16166402
Thinking [11 words]LadyJan 17, 2010 19:32166402

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