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I Have The Same Questions
Reader comment on item: My Peace Plan: An Israeli Victory
in response to reader comment: And then what?
Submitted by Mark D. (United States), Apr 30, 2010 at 21:46
----- Dr. Pipes- once Israel has won the psychological war, what do you envision as the final result? Two states, with no restrictions? Two states, with the Palestinian state demilitarized? One state, with Palestinians less than full citizens? Or one state with Palestinians full citizens?
To be considered a victory, does Israel have to create a sense of defeat in all Palestinians? A majority of Palestinians? Or only the ruling Palestinians? In other words, if the PA and Fatah were defeated and ready to accept a true peace accord, but Hamas or some similar faction still wanted to carry on the fight, would a peace accord work? -----
It was a "just like that" article that prompts your excellent questions.
I ask the same.
Mark D.
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| Former Israeli MK agrees with your peace plan via victory in a Haaretz opinion piece [48 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | PezDispenser | Oct 27, 2016 15:46 | 233665 | ||
| 1 | Dr. Pipes is correct- Defeat these 2 year old ingrates completely !!! [119 words] | Don Rosenberg | Sep 16, 2011 13:09 | 189360 | |
| And after victory? [213 words] | Samuel Mossman | Oct 3, 2010 09:37 | 178926 | ||
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| 1 | peace plan [141 words] | car313 | Jun 13, 2010 07:08 | 174348 | |
| Interesting [25 words] | Bita X | Jun 1, 2010 01:00 | 173608 | ||
| Certum est Quod Certum Reddi Potest - Inevitablity of a Time in History - Israeli Victory [713 words] | M. Tovey | May 26, 2010 16:34 | 173428 | ||
| 2 | San Remo 1922 [127 words] | Johnny | May 24, 2010 02:09 | 173290 | |
| 1 | Israel's Victory [271 words] | AK SINGH | May 23, 2010 23:15 | 173277 | |
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| 1 | My peace plan [170 words] | Sandra L. Johnson | May 11, 2010 15:15 | 172578 | |
| 1 | In war, there is no substitute for victory [28 words] | Robert Benda | May 10, 2010 18:52 | 172530 | |
| 1 | Islamic territorial claim [429 words] | M Metcalf | May 10, 2010 18:39 | 172529 | |
| Dr. Pipes' Peace plan for Israel [104 words] | Carmen Waggoner, Ph.D. | May 10, 2010 16:11 | 172522 | ||
| 1 | brilliant [11 words] | stan perlov | May 10, 2010 15:25 | 172521 | |
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| 'My Israeli Peace Plan by Daniel Pipes" [65 words] | Vigilant | May 10, 2010 12:26 | 172505 | ||
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| 2 | THE PALESTINIANS BELONG IN OTHER ARAB STATES [199 words] | Ilene Richman | May 7, 2010 10:11 | 172347 | |
| almost forgotten, the islamist motivation [50 words] | myth | May 7, 2010 07:13 | 172342 | ||
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| Israel's first step [23 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | myth | May 7, 2010 07:10 | 172341 | ||
| Victory [40 words] | Luka Serb | May 6, 2010 11:40 | 172297 | ||
| It's so simple [59 words] | Richard Lapin | May 6, 2010 11:37 | 172296 | ||
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| Can I ask you something [126 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Ash London | May 5, 2010 17:54 | 172234 | ||
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| How offensive [15 words] | pdm | May 5, 2010 10:23 | 172206 | ||
| Zero Tolerance [182 words] | bob stogdill | May 4, 2010 20:07 | 172149 | ||
| 1 | How do we get there? [64 words] | Houyhnhnm | May 4, 2010 16:28 | 172138 | |
| West Bank Arabs pawn of Islam [191 words] | Peri | May 3, 2010 11:55 | 172042 | ||
| all the israel muslim neighbours must go for nuke [38 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | syed mohammad ali | May 3, 2010 11:27 | 172038 | ||
| 1 | what it requires and what defeat looks like [140 words] | myth | May 2, 2010 17:32 | 172015 | |
| the third vision, keep Israel immature, the curtain-of-common-sense. [169 words] | myth | May 2, 2010 08:35 | 172001 | ||
| MYTH, I sympathize with all your comments in this article. [8 words] | Thomas | May 10, 2010 12:20 | 172001 | ||
| reply [154 words] | Joe Six-Pack | May 2, 2010 08:07 | 171999 | ||
| More reply to Dr. Pipes [236 words] | Debanjan Banerjee | May 2, 2010 02:08 | 171989 | ||
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| Response to Dr. Pipes [195 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Debanjan Banerjee | May 1, 2010 15:39 | 171976 | ||
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| 1 | Dead end? not on your life [223 words] | yuval Brandstetter MD | May 7, 2010 10:40 | 171976 | |
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| Entire conflict explained in less than 20 lines [192 words] | G Marcus | May 1, 2010 05:07 | 171959 | ||
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| WHAT IS VICTORY??? [179 words] | John R Peacher | May 2, 2010 14:55 | 171931 | ||
| Victory is the result of war [85 words] | Alain Jean-Mairet | May 5, 2010 02:40 | 171931 | ||
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| better demonstrate morality by victory [221 words] | myth | May 3, 2010 05:24 | 171915 | ||
| Might makes right? [175 words] | Edward Halper | May 4, 2010 12:05 | 171915 | ||
| Palestine is not the battlefield, stop the media-event [213 words] | myth | May 4, 2010 19:11 | 171915 | ||
| Freedom [251 words] | Edward Halper | May 7, 2010 19:50 | 171915 | ||
| Okay then.. [15 words] | Bita X | Jun 1, 2010 01:18 | 171915 | ||
| Great plan, . . sadly it will not succeed, the muslim world wants Israel dead, even if the Palestians give up, the muslim world will never ! [163 words] | Phil Greend | Apr 30, 2010 12:05 | 171914 | ||
| True, Phil; But Death can change that [74 words] | Dajjal | May 3, 2010 21:33 | 171914 | ||
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| General and Statesman Moshe Dayan [229 words] | Arlinda DeAngelis | Apr 29, 2010 21:13 | 171878 | ||
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| Eisenhower quote [14 words] | Richard Conoboy | Apr 29, 2010 13:40 | 171850 | ||
| 1 | Yes! [48 words] | Drago Barunavich | Apr 29, 2010 13:40 | 171849 | |
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| Good [23 words] | Ariel Ben Yochanan | Apr 29, 2010 13:22 | 171847 | ||
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| One side cuts the cake [43 words] | LanceThruster | Apr 29, 2010 11:55 | 171836 | ||
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