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This is a specious (and rehashed) argument

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Submitted by sara (United States), Jul 26, 2010 at 17:48

Dear Sharkbix-

I am saddened to read your explanation/justification for the Muslim's claim to Jerusalem, made with such naive expectation that it would be generally accepted. I wanted to refer you to a very informative and comprehensive account by Dr. Pipes on this very topic. I recommend reading it:

http://www.danielpipes.org/84/the-muslim-claim-to-jerusalem

1. The point here is that you need to try to understand that Jerusalem has meaning to other religions. Judaism existed long before Islam and was based in Jerusalem thousands of years before Muhamed was a sparkle in his father's eye. Jews have always prayed in Jerusalem, and always prayed towards her if they were prevented from being there. Jerusalem is mentioned hundreds of time by name in the bible, not once in the Quran. Jews for thousands of years have prayed to be 'next year in Jerusalem'. For Christians, Jesus lived and died in Jerusalem, and these places are understandably holy to them. There is mutual respect between Jews and Christians to tolerate each other's beliefs and sacred lands.

2. The flimsy connection between the ambiguous phrase 'farthest mosque' and the mosque given that name (and built upon the ruins of the SECOND temple of Israel in Jerusalem) was actually built nearly a century AFTER Mohamed's death. It was a convenient link to establish a location for the night journey and assert a claim to Jerusalem. A mosque by the name of Al Aqsa (The Farthest) could have been built anywhere in the world, but for political and strategic reasons, Jerusalem was chosen.

3. The 'Qibla" to pray towards Jerusalem was stopped during Mohamed's lifetime. No Muslim prays facing Jerusalem but facing Mecca. You already chose Mecca and Medina, leave Jerusalem alone.

see: ... a Qur'anic verse instructing the faithful no longer to pray toward Syria but instead toward Mecca. The passage (2:142-52) begins by anticipating questions about this abrupt change: The Fools among the people will say: "What has turned them [the Muslims] from the qibla to which they were always used?"

God then provides the answer: We appointed the qibla that to which you was used, only to test those who followed the Messenger [Muhammad] from those who would turn on their heels [on Islam]. In other words, the new qibla served as a way to distinguish Muslims from Jews. From now on, Mecca would be the direction of prayer:

now shall we turn you to a qibla that shall please you. Then turn your face in the direction of the Sacred Mosque [in Mecca]. Wherever you are, turn your faces in that direction.

The Qur'an then reiterates the point about no longer paying attention to Jews: Even if you were to bring all the signs to the people of the Book [i.e., Jews], they would not follow your qibla. ...

So in your own Quran Jerusalem is abandoned as a place of importance once Mohamed broke with the Jews (who had helped and supported him).

We can dispute these FACTS if you like, and let me take this a step further in an effort to communicate with you. Let's say for the sake of argument only, that Burak really was tied to the Jewish temple mount for the midnight journey. Just suppose. Then if that place becomes holy to Muslims because Muhamed was there for a few hours, then how many other places should be claimed as holy because Mohamed was there? The argument does not hold up even on that level.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
It always has and always will [152 words]StasJun 5, 2012 00:42196037
1You're wrong! [46 words]SaraMar 30, 2011 15:03183753
So what if prophet ascended to heaven from Jerusalem [132 words]PrashantApr 3, 2011 05:23183753
1Jerusalen first qibla of muslims [200 words]sharkbixJul 25, 2010 23:18176032
1This is a specious (and rehashed) argument [576 words]saraJul 26, 2010 17:48176032
Sara and Jerusalem [111 words]UgriJul 27, 2010 14:13176032
1Our dear Qirsh bix and Islamic delusions [1088 words]dhimmi no moreJul 27, 2010 18:39176032
Who cares if Muhammad visited Jerusalem [106 words]TedJul 28, 2010 04:07176032
??? [39 words]MahaMay 8, 2010 14:43172408
is the peace not inportant [71 words]farydSep 16, 2009 13:32161636
false accusations!!! [110 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
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Every piece of this earth belongs to muslims [65 words]HowCanYouBeApr 18, 2009 02:42154037
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Jerusalem [106 words]MichaelAug 22, 2008 20:26137165
Drive the Muslims out of Israel! [95 words]Donald EG BeggsJul 27, 2008 01:53135713
Jerusalem in the Qur'an [36 words]ChottuApr 23, 2008 14:53126587
peace [18 words]Tina LawndryOct 18, 2007 19:58111870
thx [5 words]meApr 22, 2009 18:53111870
1importance of Jerusalem to Muslims [269 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
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First Stop for Jews [65 words]Ayesha ZahydNov 24, 2007 03:0643237
If prophet had lived long enough to visit Benares or Rome [74 words]OhSureApr 18, 2009 02:5143237
Who let the Jews into Jerusalem? [268 words]Allison KnightSep 7, 2005 23:3525575

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