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Submitted by John in Michigan, USA (United States), Feb 4, 2011 at 22:41

Dr. Pipes lived in Egypt for almost two years (1971-2?) before he started his Ph.D at Harvard. He writes fondly about the cosmopolitan Cairo he knew and loved, that is now changed almost beyond recognition, mostly due to the fall of secular pan-Arabism and the rise of Islamism. He clearly hopes to see the Cairo of his youth return one day. I do not think it is fair to suggest that he wouldn't give Egypt credit when credit is due. But he is also trying to give his readers a realistic assessment of the chances that the current movement in Egypt will accomplish that (he is pessimistic).

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Islamic countries should stop calling themselves Islamic [519 words]PrashantJan 20, 2017 00:40235590
Mincor correction in my message above [128 words]PrashantJan 21, 2017 01:07235590
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1Good points [134 words]Peter HerzFeb 11, 2011 19:38182555
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1Islam and the Future of Planet Earth [14 words]MorganFeb 11, 2011 15:58182546
4About Democracy in Egypt [739 words]Rafi LaufertFeb 11, 2011 07:25182539
Why Egyot will not soon become democratic [174 words]sufi imdad ali soomroFeb 10, 2011 23:37182523
Treaty [39 words]Barry BlackFeb 6, 2011 16:35182370
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3Illusion and desillusion [123 words]Gabriel AngeFeb 6, 2011 06:55182357
1Illusion and disillusion [291 words]Gabriel AngeFeb 7, 2011 05:23182357
2Democracy in Egypt? No chance [78 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 6, 2011 06:26182355
"Commonality of Values" [43 words]Aminu Adamu BelloFeb 6, 2011 03:52182353
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1Look at History [167 words]AfriconFeb 5, 2011 15:19182333
Egypt [12 words]Jon PuriznahskyFeb 5, 2011 13:58182326
4no democracy without religious freedom [103 words]alan glaserFeb 5, 2011 13:31182322
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Muslim Paranoia - Why Egypts will not advance to democracy anytime soon [113 words]David MacKAYFeb 5, 2011 02:01182305
Pipes makes sense - where in history have we seen anything different - even the American revolution wasn't a rush job. [106 words]DallasFeb 5, 2011 01:45182304
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2Mr Pipes is hopefully wrong [256 words]Devils advocateFeb 4, 2011 18:23182284
To Devils advocate [107 words]John in Michigan, USAFeb 4, 2011 22:41182284
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Hello Moussa [85 words]batya daganFeb 10, 2011 22:06182283
4free egypt [243 words]havasFeb 4, 2011 17:29182280
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And if there is a vote, hopefully not :One person, one vote, one time." [115 words]Edmund Onward JamesFeb 4, 2011 11:25182267

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