Argument for a Muslim organisation with some new name and good conditions upon membership

Submitted by Demsci (Netherlands), Aug 7, 2011 at 06:02

Daniel, you wrote that Muslims can be good patriots in America, so in Democratic Nations. But how to even start to distinquish between patriotic and hostile Muslims-in-Democratic-Nations (MUDENA's)? Without so much as asking them to provide clear proof of splitting Muslims accountably?

What if: We determine that: Islam is either A. Genuinely anti-Democratic (and to be respected as such, but let Muslims then choose for tyrannical, not Democratic nations) or B. Criminally (unlawful, problematic) vulnerable to anti-Democratic interpretations and so criminally inspiring Muslims to commit acts of violence, oppression on a worldwide scale.

And if we further determine that Islam, established already as having a tremendous detrimental influence worldwide, I. requires and achieves high levels of utmost loyalty from Muslims in a global, not just national context. II. is sort of an organisation, which has no real good conditions on membership of it (on the contrary, it has deathpenalty for apostasy, and can't we use that against it?)

Then can citizens, media and politicians evolve towards

A. the massive demand on Muslims to initiate and join some kind of new Organisation, able to retain many Islamic neutral and benevolent tenets, but with negotiable, good democratic, enforceable conditions on membership?!

B. After that, cease to trust all old default Muslims, who fail to join the above organisation, and discriminate against them in immigration-laws and exhort them to migrate to Islamic countries, since they clearly are very likely to have no loyalty to a democratic country?

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