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Turkey has implicitly admited to be a thug.

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Submitted by Ianus (Poland), Feb 29, 2012 at 13:56

Mozere wrote :

> A well established law applies to everybody equally whether a convention is signed or not is besides the point.<

Ever heard of a conflict of laws? How can it apply to everybody if one set of laws (let's say , your shariah law ) is in conflict with another set of law (let's say, British common law )?

You have shown your ignorance of history. Now you have taken up the subject of law to show the same. Law is "well-established" as long as it can be effectively enforced, i.e. as long as there is somebody in whose jurisdiction it falls to enforce the law upon those who defy it. Now how is international law defined ? It is a set of rules whose sources are international covenants, conventions, agreements , treaties in which contracting parties agree to be bound by them. As such it doesn't apply to a country that refuses to agree to them. This is clearly recognized by the organ set up to solve international legal disputes and whose jurisdiction Turkey has not recognized not only in case of her attempts to grab Greek Aegean territory. Article 38 of the International Court of Justice states :

"1. The Court, whose function is to decide in accordance with international law such disputes as are submitted to it, shall apply:

a. international conventions, whether general or particular, establishing rules expressly recognized by the contesting states;"

As Turkey has consistently refused to sign the 1958 and the 1982 conventions, there is no jurisdiction that could bring her to account for violating their stipulations, hence your claim that " A well established law applies to everybody equally whether a convention is signed or not is besides the point." is either another glib lie of yours or it simply comes from your ignorance of the subject matter. No matter what is is the origin of your distortion of the real state of affairs, the corollary you jump at , viz. that

>Turkey may have had some reservations on some points of the convention but that does not invalidate her claims to the Anatolian continental shelf as strengthened by the two precedents I mentioned in my previous post.<

is a lie pure and simple. ... To make matters more absurd, Turkey that repeatedly defied and ignored the International Court of Justice when it didn't suit her imperialist lust, is now trying to use the every International Court of Justice to sue Israel ! Turkey's Foreign Minister Davutoglu said " What is binding is the International Court of Justice...This is what we are saying: let the International Court of Justice decide. We are starting the necessary legal procedures". Somebody should remind him that before Turkey starts suing Israel it should improve her own criminal record in the said International Court of Justice for which it had shown so much contempt and should first settle her old lawsuits brought against her there. Well, exposed criminals and liars tend to make heavy use of morality and law as their standard weapon of crime and deception.

> This is why the Greek government is ,wisely,not pushing the issue.<

Article 3 of the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea states "Breadth of the territorial sea

Every State has the right to establish the breadth of its territorial sea up to a limit not exceeding 12 nautical miles, measured from baselines determined in accordance with this Convention."

On 9 June 1995, the Turkish parliament passed an official resolution that in case Greece exerts her full right and implements Article 3 of the UNCLOS, that is if she acts within the valid international law, her legitimate action would be considered by Turkey a reason to assault her , a casus belli - i.e. Turkey would declare war on Greece. In other words Turkey sees in International Law a hindrance to her imperialist greed and conquests and on the contrary considers aggression and war as something normal . She feels free attack a country that abides by international law.

This not withstanding , a Turkish ... here has a cheek to speak of "law" and "conventions" Turkey allegedly considers to be equally applicable to her as to those countries that have signed them and calls bullying and threatening through the Turkish thug , a "wise" behavior of his victim!!!What a pathologically distorted sense of reality! In common parlance Turkey's behavior is called "thuggery", "blackmail" , "terrorism" , "intimidation", "bullying" etc. In old British common law a person who behaves like Turkey is punished with imprisonment up to 10 years. But Turkey, for being a bandit and admitting this quite openly and proudly through a 1995 parliamentary resolution is rather rewarded and reassured than punished by her powerful US godfather.

So much about your "law is equal for all", ...

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Title Commenter Date Thread
10Kastelorizo is just a sign [583 words]AlexandrosFeb 27, 2012 11:47193708
3Florida of Europe [292 words]MozereFeb 28, 2012 10:26193708
6other benchmarks [45 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanFeb 28, 2012 20:27193708
4Not exactly [724 words]AlexandrosFeb 29, 2012 06:19193708
14"Wounds which a mentally sterile Asiatic horde inflicted on Christian civilization still bleed after 500 years " [2725 words]IanusFeb 29, 2012 16:47193708
4A question or two [417 words]IanusFeb 29, 2012 17:47193708
3Answers to Ianus, hope to hear more opinions and from others [1445 words]AlexandrosMar 1, 2012 11:41193708
2regional cooperation [322 words]MozereMar 1, 2012 12:22193708
9Additional reply to Mozere comments [1856 words]AlexandrosMar 2, 2012 08:05193708
6Wrong side repenting and apologizing [902 words]IanusMar 11, 2012 12:07193708
1Islamic civilisation [635 words]MozereMar 13, 2012 11:57193708
3The so salled "Islamic civilisation" [59 words]Young MCMar 13, 2012 18:39193708
7"Islamic civilization" = the Skull Tower of Nis and the Skull Cathedral of Otranto [864 words]IanusMar 13, 2012 19:26193708
1Answers to both Ianus and Mozere. [444 words]AlexandrosMar 15, 2012 10:51193708
3Sackcloth and ashes while the hungry wolves are howling around [749 words]IanusMar 16, 2012 18:38193708
1Ianus [350 words]AlexandrosMar 18, 2012 07:28193708
4A prominent former board member of the American Turkish Council [2050 words]IanusMar 21, 2012 16:37193708
"Moved" was describing the action [14 words]AlexandrosMar 23, 2012 18:43193708
7Those who didn't manage to "move" [538 words]IanusMar 24, 2012 11:15193708
2Not what i meant [298 words]AlexandrosMar 25, 2012 05:13193708
6The Turkish massacres of Phocea 12.06.1914 [763 words]IanusMar 28, 2012 17:16193708
1I would suggest another book [70 words]AlexandrosMar 29, 2012 03:46193708
Thanks [99 words]IanusApr 1, 2012 16:30193708
2Not so easy! [209 words]Pantelis GiannopoulosJun 25, 2012 14:00193708
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3a shame [69 words]mythFeb 23, 2012 16:35193593
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4Washington and the Turkish octopus there [1584 words]IanusFeb 25, 2012 11:09193593
10Recidivist Turkey [1225 words]IanusFeb 26, 2012 18:12193593
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16The slave hunters' state of the Crimean Tatars and a second disciple of Ataturk [1422 words]IanusMar 1, 2012 15:09193593
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17Tripolitsa or from Lord Byron to Mozere the Turk [2270 words]IanusMar 4, 2012 17:30193593
4Islamic slavery then and now [1588 words]IanusMar 16, 2012 14:54193593
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1Criminal Minded State Propaganda [17 words]Young MCFeb 21, 2012 14:17193512
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23An outpost against Turkish jihad [1265 words]IanusFeb 22, 2012 11:16193512
5Bellicosity and Misleading Propaganda [275 words]Young MCFeb 23, 2012 09:36193512
7Islands have a full right to continental shelf [1199 words]IanusFeb 24, 2012 08:18193512
3Islands do not have an automatic right to EEZ [278 words]MozereFeb 26, 2012 04:08193512
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7Tyrkjaránið - An Ottoman slave-hunting raid in Iceland 1627 [1574 words]IanusFeb 27, 2012 16:48193512
4more details [62 words]the Grand Infidel of KaffiristanFeb 27, 2012 21:57193512
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1Islands and constructed EEZ claims [461 words]Young MCFeb 28, 2012 11:51193512
7Turkey has implicitly admited to be a thug. [805 words]IanusFeb 29, 2012 13:56193512
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10Imia [1045 words]IanusFeb 17, 2012 15:28193427
1game of interests [98 words]
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athinagorasFeb 17, 2012 09:06193421
8Another Crusade? = ... damn the locals [378 words]Kali SimpsonFeb 10, 2012 09:40193269
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3Diaspora [79 words]NickLlewellynJul 26, 2012 11:29193172

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