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Reader comment on item: Philadelphia's Burqa Crisis
in response to reader comment: Back to the point

Submitted by Amin Riaz (United Kingdom), Apr 17, 2013 at 20:29

"I am trying to say that like guns, cars and knives, or inappropriate clothing, burkas do present a issue in a Western society."

None of my arguments were idiotic. Your motivation was simply petty tit-for-tat response. And you spend many words on pettiness and insults. This is but the last resort of the ignorant.

You have needed ANOTHER comment to get your point across. If you had been sensible - you might have managed it in one . . .

Burqa DOES present an issue . . . but guns, cars, knives and other inappropriate clothing are not banned. Controlled - but not banned.

Take Balakavas - easily available. Not banned - neither is making them. There are many other clothings that one can use to cover the face.

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"Burkas do present problems with identification of the wearer"

Yes they do - but that is temporary - and not really THAT much of problem.

do limit the ability to see and communicate,

to see the werer? That is the whole point of covering up! Communication? Not really - why would communications be a problem? You can make that point about anyone that is different. The Goths, teen punks, Emos, tramps, people in suits . .

have been used as an aid in the commisiion of crimes,

As i pointed out - so have countless other things . . . cars, guns, knives - THEY are far more useful in crime. Pair tights - albeit probably only a movie fav.

"and are seen by many as a symbol of oppression."

Western countries have law against this - it doesn't MATTER what a person is dressed as - a man's fists are a bigger symbol of oppression . . . not a single objective of yours is of primary concern.

If someone wishes to wear a Burqa - that is their problem - as long as they wish to wear it.

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Are you going to dispute any of the comments in the last paragraph? If so please "provide a link" as to how burkas improve the ability to identify the wearer?

They don't. However - they hardly cause that much probelm of identification.

How burkas prevent crimes

Burqa - is not meant to cause or prevent crimes.

and how Western women see the Burka as a symbol of Womens liberation?

What has that got to do with it?

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"We are talking about the Western Society here, not Islamic countries which have their own norms."

Yes - and it is the Western society that allows you the freedom! Doh! Think for a minute . . .

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"So there MAY be a need for Western governments to limit the use of burkas and other similar clothing."

There may be . . . . however - here - in such case - it is the intent that is important! The reason WHY something is banned.

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"Why are you so scared to discuss this? Or is this another example of "sacred cows" that Muslim fear to have discussed?"

Actually it is YOU who is afraid to discuss . . . evidence?

Go back and read your own comments - you OVER WHELMING motivation is of simplistic HATE - hence why you have the easy tendency to INSULT.

How can you have a discussion with someone who is going to to call you petty and childish names?

A discussion is normally a codial exchange.

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Don't forget - You have form . . . many previous lies . . . . for example this "formula"

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RE: Speaking UP [45 words]CarlitoFeb 17, 2016 03:15228089
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Philly [34 words]
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2W.E.B. Griffin/Sean Patrick Griffin points of clarification [112 words]Sean Patrick GriffinSep 3, 2014 13:40217390
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4Islamo-Felia [98 words]DavidAug 14, 2014 09:53217141
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3Burqa Crisis [43 words]AmericanInfidelNYCFeb 22, 2013 03:00203774
Absurdities [16 words]Amin RiazFeb 25, 2013 19:03203774
2The absurd is really your reply our dear Amin [216 words]dhimmi no moreMar 2, 2013 07:58203774
Limits of being absurd [265 words]Amin RiazMar 3, 2013 23:23203774
7Our dear Amin agrees that he cannot find anything about the Burqa in the Qur'an and that the barbaric shari3a is external to the Qur'an [195 words]dhimmi no moreMar 5, 2013 07:32203774
Conformism may be the required thing [193 words]Amit SrivastavaFeb 21, 2013 21:28203768
8Also used by cowardly jihadist fugitives [101 words]
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saraFeb 21, 2013 18:45203762
8Drivers Licenses Photo IDs [73 words]EdwardFeb 22, 2013 04:25203762
8Non-religious "fear" symbol [224 words]Michael A.Feb 21, 2013 17:22203759
Oh, for the same of prejudice [211 words]Amin RiazFeb 24, 2013 08:57203759
1The victims of Arabian imperialism one at a time and islamic twists and turns [431 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 25, 2013 18:59203759
Easy Exposition [24 words]Amin RiazFeb 25, 2013 19:40203759
16Religious injunctions must also be subject to the golden rule. [200 words]PrashantFeb 21, 2013 16:46203758
1"Pointless" is not allowed as a comment title. [240 words]Amin RiazFeb 24, 2013 08:45203758
1Wannabe Arabs! [416 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 25, 2013 19:15203758
1Lonely hearts [24 words]Amin RiazFeb 25, 2013 19:38203758
7Do you understand what marriage is? [326 words]Peter HallApr 15, 2013 09:59203758
1West - always did do HATE| better! [867 words]Amin RiazApr 16, 2013 20:13203758
4More Jibberish [320 words]Peter HallApr 18, 2013 01:06203758
1How to win be default [660 words]Amin RiazApr 18, 2013 21:02203758
3LOL, what a joke! [438 words]Peter HallApr 19, 2013 21:18203758
1Only interested in insults. . . [206 words]Amin RiazApr 20, 2013 20:49203758
Amazing [113 words]Peter HallApr 22, 2013 23:56203758
To win by defualt [226 words]Amin RiazApr 24, 2013 00:46203758
1Taqqiya Amin strikes again [259 words]Peter HallApr 25, 2013 00:34203758
Oh - the formula! [733 words]Amin RiazApr 25, 2013 21:21203758
1Amin Strikes again and again [419 words]Peter HallApr 26, 2013 20:16203758
1So you finally admit your mistake [152 words]Peter HallApr 26, 2013 23:21203758
Convenient oversights [289 words]Amin RiazApr 27, 2013 19:54203758
Real smart! [788 words]Amin RiazApr 27, 2013 20:12203758
1Further Admissions? [584 words]Peter HallApr 30, 2013 01:12203758
1Exposed? [199 words]Peter HallApr 30, 2013 03:48203758
3You asked for proof? [128 words]Peter HallApr 30, 2013 04:00203758
It is OBVIOUS I am superior to you [502 words]Amin RiazApr 30, 2013 21:59203758
A simple Fallacy [107 words]Amin RiazApr 30, 2013 22:07203758
Again you sqirm [297 words]Peter HallMay 2, 2013 19:02203758
1Again you prove the point. [293 words]Peter HallMay 2, 2013 19:13203758
Another dear! [697 words]Amin RiazMay 3, 2013 20:03203758
Muslim cool dudes should take note. [214 words]PrashantSep 9, 2017 00:22203758
4…Islam is advancing to conquer the world [90 words]NuritGFeb 21, 2013 16:15203756
4an Additional Reason [249 words]Ron ThompsonFeb 21, 2013 15:09203755
Difficulty in "Reason" [40 words]Amin RiazFeb 24, 2013 09:03203755
He is back! [123 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 25, 2013 18:39203755
1Begotten by the robots [155 words]Amin RiazFeb 25, 2013 19:01203755
Wannabe Arabs and islam is the religion of the Arabs only [238 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 25, 2013 19:33203755
2Staring at the dust cloud [77 words]Amin RiazFeb 26, 2013 19:21203755
3And speaking of dust and clouds [383 words]dhimmi no moreMar 3, 2013 16:21203755
Limits of being absurd 2 [142 words]Amin RiazMar 4, 2013 18:01203755
1And speaking of the absurd part 2 [117 words]dhimmi no moreMar 5, 2013 07:22203755
Booooring [38 words]Amin RiazMar 5, 2013 20:07203755
3And speaking of booooing [102 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2013 07:44203755
3The brotherhood of Islam! Watch the video and laugh [91 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2013 08:30203755
3A Mullah is accused of molesting boys in Jakarta and what a disaster [60 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2013 12:57203755
Absurd ... [26 words]Amin RiazMar 6, 2013 19:01203755
Sickening [46 words]Amin RiazMar 6, 2013 19:44203755
Silence [16 words]mahdi_shahidsMar 8, 2013 20:06203755
4Hypocrisy has no limits [476 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2013 08:28203755
1The brotherhood of islam [128 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2013 11:09203755
3More evidence from the Qur'an that the author cannot be Allah! What a disaster [137 words]dhimmi no moreMar 9, 2013 12:44203755
1Return to type [44 words]Amin RiazMar 11, 2013 19:53203755
Serial Fiction [70 words]Amin RiazMar 11, 2013 19:56203755
How amusing [127 words]Amin RiazMar 11, 2013 20:00203755
2It seems that Muhammad's name was really قثم بن عبد اللات or Quthm bin abd al-Lat! [527 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2013 09:14203755
1Hinduism and the boy! [306 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2013 09:25203755
12It seems that Muhammad's father died 4 long years before he was born as we are told by the Islamic literary sources [159 words]dhimmi no moreMar 12, 2013 10:02203755
Price of Absurdity [18 words]Amin RiazMar 13, 2013 19:09203755
Avoidance is avoidance. [36 words]Amin RiazMar 13, 2013 19:11203755
Oh dear . . .more avoidance? [330 words]Amin RiazMar 13, 2013 19:23203755
3Muhammad's real name is Quthm what a disaster [118 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2013 06:51203755
3Boys and girls pregnancy can be as long as 4 long years in Islam! What a disaster [753 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2013 07:29203755
1More evidence that in Islam pregnancy can be as long as 4 years! What a disaster [33 words]dhimmi no moreMar 15, 2013 07:42203755
Meaning of "Copy and Paste" [272 words]Amin RiazMar 16, 2013 01:10203755
Ouch! Oh, it must be embarrassing! [198 words]Amin RiazMar 16, 2013 01:15203755
The way to an Arabic Forum! [115 words]Amin RiazMar 16, 2013 01:23203755
And speaking of the absurd and the ridiculous and in Islam pregnancy can be 4-5 years and what a disaster [426 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2013 11:34203755
2It seems that Muhammad's kunya was Abul Qasim! So who was this little Qasim? What happened to him? [378 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2013 11:56203755
1Tablighees and Zakaria Botros! Good luck [104 words]dhimmi no moreMar 16, 2013 17:54203755
Blowing away the Nonsense! [107 words]Amin RiazMar 16, 2013 19:14203755
1Our dear Amin is sending me a ticket on al-buraq so we can have a "debate" [58 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 07:57203755
8Boys and girls Muhammad's real name is Qutham! Our dear Amin uses google to translate Arabic texts! [239 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 08:18203755
1Plagiarism? I will leave it to the readers to judge you our dear Amin! [193 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 08:42203755
1Exposing plagiarism [79 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 08:46203755
1Exposing fabrications [290 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 09:35203755
1Translating what Sheikh al-Azhar said about the fact that in Islam pregnanacy can be as long as four years! [136 words]dhimmi no moreMar 17, 2013 10:43203755
Father of Absurdity!!! [310 words]Amin RiazMar 17, 2013 18:14203755
Gotcha! Again! Again! [299 words]Amin RiazMar 18, 2013 19:16203755
Two lefts. . . [259 words]Amin RiazMar 18, 2013 19:28203755
.... or 99 others! [413 words]Amin RiazMar 18, 2013 20:09203755
More delusions [64 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 07:15203755
1Cherry picking time [113 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 07:24203755
Exposing fabrications again and Muhammad's name is really Qutham and what a disaster [159 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 07:35203755
1Islamic disasters and Muhammad's name was really Quthm and not Muhammad! What a disaster [438 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 08:21203755
1Spot the mistake in the book of Allah! Part one [93 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 08:55203755
1Revisiting our dear Amin's poor and bogus Arabic [642 words]dhimmi no moreMar 19, 2013 13:42203755
1Amin, you just do not get it [371 words]Peter HallApr 15, 2013 10:19203755
The missing formula? [339 words]Amin RiazApr 16, 2013 10:14203755
LOL, you really do have a problem with simple concepts don't you? [475 words]Peter HallApr 16, 2013 21:18203755
2Back to the point [172 words]PeterHallApr 16, 2013 21:27203755
Where is that formula, once again? [703 words]Amin RiazApr 17, 2013 20:07203755
Bursting old myths. . . [605 words]Amin RiazApr 17, 2013 20:29203755
2Try and concentrate [375 words]Peter HallApr 19, 2013 03:49203755
Just to get the insults in . . . [230 words]Amin RiazApr 20, 2013 12:35203755
3Again the master of Taqqiya strikes again [497 words]Peter HallApr 20, 2013 22:48203755
To quarrel [193 words]Amin RiazApr 23, 2013 01:42203755
Muhammads father [20 words]Mensah MorrisJun 3, 2016 02:59203755
Muhammad and his Sira [164 words]dhimmi no moreJun 6, 2016 07:39203755

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