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El Fadl's book, The Great Theft

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Submitted by Jon Paul (Canada), Aug 29, 2014 at 02:37

I've read through this book a couple of times now, and can say that while I was uncomfortable reading the early parts of the book -- I did indeed get the very strong impression that the author was practising a kind of double discourse, the sort that Paul Berman finds in Tariq Ramadan's public utterances -- in the closing chapters he is unequivocal in his condemnation of those aspects of the Muslim religious tradition, it's shabby treatment of women, its barbarities masquerading as law, and so on.

All this leaves us with a dilemma, especially considering his defensive and sometimes hysterical comments as documented in the various updates to Pipes' original article: has El Fadl in fact changed at least some of his views, and tried to reorient himself with (what he defines as) shari'a so as to make it sound like a true heir of the enlightenment, as, in effect, secular-style law?

The problem here is simple, and can be stated in comparative terms. A Christian who believes in scriptural inerrancy is an outlier, a fundamentalist, a relative rarity. A Muslim who believes in scriptural inerrancy is just a Muslim, that is, the tenet of inerrancy is a key Muslim belief, meaning that if one calls oneself a believer, one begins from the premise that the Qur'an is the true revealed word of God, all of it, thus, one's interpretive room to maneuver is much more limited than for a believer of any other religion.

Does this matter? If we take El Fadl at his word, well, yes and no. He still holds to inerrancy, but allows himself, buttressed by appeals to 1500 years of scholarship, the right to proclaim that he has interpretive leeway to create a more liberal, secular version of Islam (but which he still insists is not secular).

To me the problem with all this is that it violates one of the basic norms of modern democracies, which is the separation of religion from the public sphere, its relegation to the private sphere; which El Fadl decries, and clearly dislikes. He is a sort of liberal, that is, he proclaims his allegiance to particular liberal doctrines, but ignores the history and philosophy on which those doctrines are founded; that being the case,

I don't feel a great deal of confidence in his long-term support of any particular liberal ideas, and while I sympathize with his feeling that he is being treated unfairly, I have to say that to me, he seems caught in cleft stick that is largely of his own making.

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Reader comments (35) on this item

Title Commenter Date Thread
2El Fadl's book, The Great Theft [427 words]Jon PaulAug 29, 2014 02:37217483
Freedom of speech is the right to offend [262 words]PutupwithitOct 3, 2008 23:05139516
Does "Islam" mean "Hypocrisy"? [140 words]TomApr 12, 2008 02:48125421
laughing [198 words]dfwhite19438Apr 10, 2008 03:08125255
"It is a matter of sending a message to Muslims...that their choices of values and morality are not welcome in the West." [35 words]DrRJPApr 6, 2008 18:03124865
Not Welcome??? [33 words]Linda HaslamApr 10, 2008 11:07124865
Killing and eating turtles- Islamic Moral Value.- No Fatwas by even Moderate Muslims. [108 words]YnnatchkahApr 6, 2008 02:18124806
knowing islam 39 years [80 words]G.VishvasMar 5, 2008 22:30121848
more wolves in sheep/s clothing [319 words]Rebecca MouldsMar 1, 2008 16:26121507
They didn't forget ! [218 words]dfwhite19438Apr 10, 2008 19:21121507
I Hope This Makes You Laugh [168 words]AlexFeb 29, 2008 10:59121417
napoleon [19 words]dfwhite19438Apr 11, 2008 02:22121417
Abou El Fadl is indeed a stealth Islamist [44 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 29, 2008 07:11121398
About muslim liberals [160 words]G.VishvasAug 29, 2006 09:2554247
Learning about New Islamists [26 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
MuslihoonAug 28, 2006 16:5154179
Well spotted [100 words]Dr. Denis MacEoinApr 18, 2006 13:3743489
Is this the same Khaled Abou El Fadl? [407 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Michael VoytinskyNov 13, 2005 13:3228326
Wondering if Mr. Pipes has had occasion to read The Great Theft yet? [60 words]AdamJan 17, 2011 11:1528326
Constitutional Rights Foundation. [329 words]Tom LaichasOct 31, 2005 02:0827537
Another excellent article. [20 words]natJun 1, 2004 09:1815472
Not merely an Islamist problem [280 words]Rory WardJun 1, 2004 03:1915468
ambiguity [245 words]John W. McGinleyMay 31, 2004 15:5015457
A voice in the wilderness [17 words]E.K. WoodsMay 31, 2004 08:4115447
Taking Action [97 words]DontRestMar 1, 2008 15:2115447
??? [92 words]Frank BradyMay 31, 2004 01:5915444
Thanks again, Dr. Pipes [121 words]Morgaan SinclairMay 30, 2004 16:4115433
Even al Buraq leaves a mess of horse feces [60 words]Walton CookMay 30, 2004 13:0815427
1The camel's nose is in the tent! [219 words]Richard RheinerMay 30, 2004 12:2815426
1The real terror. [58 words]Stealth Islamist: Khaled Abou El Fad!May 30, 2004 11:4715425
I agree with your assessment of Mr. El Fadl [217 words]Nonie DarwishMay 30, 2004 11:3615424
1Brothers, Cousins, Neighbors, World [178 words]Peter J. HerzMay 30, 2004 00:3815422
Tip Of The Iceberg [81 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
yonasonMay 29, 2004 23:3915421
Abou el Fadi [33 words]Milton WeissMay 29, 2004 21:5015420
1Stealth Islamists [87 words]Darwin BarrettMay 29, 2004 19:4915418
Excellent [18 words]Richard OngMay 29, 2004 19:0715417

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