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Submitted by Vivarto (Israel), Apr 5, 2017 at 03:53

I once saw a movie Shogun based on the novel by the same name. In that movie The Shogun banned Christians from entering Japan. All Europeans before entering Japan had to step on the cross. The fanatical Spaniards could not get themselves to do that, on the other hand the practical and rather secular Dutch, without any hesitation stepped on the cross and entered. This in granted the Dutch an interesting position where they would buy silver in Japan, sell it in China, buy silk in China and sell it in Japan, making huge profits, as at that time China and Japan had no relations and were at war with each other.

My point is that just asking Muslims about their beliefs is not good enough. A test should be something that is emotionally difficult for them to do. Perhaps not stepping on the Quran, but a public declaration like: "I consider Muhammad's marriage to a 6 year old girl to be reprehensible and I condemn the Prophet Muhammad in the strongest terms for doing such thing!" Or alternately condemning any other of his crimes, e.g. beheading Banu Quraiza Jews in Medina, raping Safiah, Reyhana, and several other war prisoners who's husbands he has killed, or keeping Mariam as his sex slave. Or they could condemn Quran for advocating crucifixion and cutting off feet and hands on opposite sides.

Ideally they should be doing all of this before getting a visa. After such test they should be welcome to enter a civilized country. Maybe they pasport could be stamped proving that they have passed the test of civilization.

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Daniel Pipes replies:

I don't see how this can be done in a country like the United States.

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Two rebuttals to some of Dr Pipes' criticisms of Trump's extreme vetting, round two. [272 words]
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Stu FaginApr 5, 2017 22:01238201
'required oath' [90 words]
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James WhiteheadApr 5, 2017 14:13238192
Don't Agree!! [109 words]
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DAVID RACKNERApr 5, 2017 06:10238176
Shogun solution [268 words]
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VivartoApr 5, 2017 03:53238174
Extreme vetting good idea, poor practice [162 words]
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VivartoApr 5, 2017 02:45238171
3I told you so. [86 words]Liz MarshApr 4, 2017 19:30238162
2There are other options [142 words]
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Leon KushnerApr 4, 2017 19:11238161
Re: Extreme Vetting [19 words]Larry ShapiroApr 4, 2017 19:01238160
Extreme Vetting [25 words]DENNIS ALLEN DURKOPApr 4, 2017 17:16238158

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