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Immigration to the United States is different from immigration to European countries

Reader comment on item: Accepting Europe's Anti-Immigration Parties
in response to reader comment: Sam Harris liberalism is needed

Submitted by Anon (Israel), Dec 10, 2017 at 22:46

Europe does not need to accept large number of immigrants from outside Europe. It's already taken in far too many. The idea that European countries can and must keep on taking in millions upon millions of immigrants makes no sense and would lead to a terrible backlash.

At the end of the day these countries host indigenous populations, which are, in fact nations, just as ethnic Kurds feel they're part of a nation. Tt is these populations' ancestral land and it hardly makes sense for them to become ethnic minorities in their own historical homes.

It is particularly bizarre given that they were not taking in stateless peoples who have no land to live in but rather have been accepting astronomical numbers of people who actually have countries of their own.

As for Arabs, there is actually something known as the "Arab world" in which they can live, not merely one country but many. Immigration is natural but the numbers need to be reasonable and the circumstances in which large numbers from outside enter must also make sense. Indeed, we saw the English felt that even immigration from Poland (inside Europe, of course) was excessive, because the numbers were vast and there weren't any extreme circumstances to justify it.

The sad thing is that because unreasonable numbers have entered, this is bound to make even reasonable circumstances seem unacceptable if it would mean many more would come. An excessive openness leads to being excessively closed. The sooner the numbers are minimised, the better.

America (and also Canada, Australia, and so on) are different in that they're natural targets of immigration and it is the ancestral home of those termed Native Americans, who are already a tiny minority. This means it's easier for people to come in from outside the United States to blend in and fit in, simply because it isn't a particular ethnic group's historical land. For example, Poles in America can feel comfortable being a minority there in a way they can't be comfortable with becoming a minority in Poland.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
Not Far Right. [21 words]Reynald de ChatillonMar 17, 2018 01:52242506
ZERO comparison with early 1900s [186 words]Michael SDec 6, 2017 03:42241480
Sam Harris liberalism is needed [128 words]AnonDec 3, 2017 05:53241460
Immigration to the United States is different from immigration to European countries [342 words]AnonDec 10, 2017 22:46241460
1Islam is the cancer of free world [206 words]Dariush AfsharDec 2, 2017 08:50241445
anti-immigration positions and prospects on the left [298 words]mythDec 1, 2017 17:30241444
All the P's and Re-settlement Policies [119 words]Vaile OceaniaDec 1, 2017 10:01241437
JAYDA FRANSEN vs. LINDA SANSOUR [983 words]Robert BlumenblattDec 1, 2017 09:12241436
The main problem is Africans seeking and getting European largesse; the EC is largely to blame [141 words]Michael SDec 4, 2017 04:41241436
Nazi Economics [73 words]TomDec 1, 2017 06:29241434
The problem is they are full of Nazis [43 words]DavidNov 30, 2017 15:18241425
Surreal View of Islamic Culture Must End [278 words]DaveNov 30, 2017 13:58241423
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Opposition to Muslim immigration to the non-Muslim nations may be justified [185 words]PrashantNov 30, 2017 08:53241420
will they really mature? [59 words]Kaspars GasunsNov 30, 2017 03:04241415
Accept or co-opt? [77 words]
w/response from Daniel Pipes
Dan SimonNov 30, 2017 02:33241414
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I think he's saying it's better to engage them than to refuse to deal with them [15 words]AnonNov 30, 2017 19:50241413
Tolerance of non-Islamist Extremism in the Democratic European Union [690 words]RobertDec 2, 2017 15:34241413

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