Aymenn: Q30-31 and Reading the Texts in Arabic

Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Sep 15, 2022 at 08:36

Dr. Pipes,

In this post I'm a bit sarcastic, because I have no respect for anyone who posts misleading translations of any ancient text, the Qur'an included.

Aymenn Wrote:

>Qur'an 9:30-31 where it is said the Jews claim Ezra is the son of God

Let us read the Arabic text: وقالت اليهود عزير ابن الله

And the Jews said (f.) 'Uzair is the son of Allah

Who is this 'Uzair? The author of the Qur'an assumes that the reader must be familiar with this "'Uzair." But who is 'Uzair, Aymenn? Let me guess: Only Allahu A'lam!

Yes, the Jews have a prophet and his name is 'Ezra (not this strange 'Uzair) and the name is عزرا in both Classical as well as Christian Arabic (and not عزير) and עֶזְרָא in Hebrew. And in Aramaic it is ܥܙܪܐ or 'Ezra

I will leave this bizarre claim that the Jews (all the Jews and not some Jews) say that a certain 'Uzair is the son of Allah, to another post.

Could you please correct your translation, after all I expect more from you because you speak write and read Arabic

For the readers: This strange 'Uzair could be the diminutive form of the name Ezra and only Allahu A'lam .

>and that they took rabbis, monks and the Messiah as lords besides God,

This is the infamous Quran 9:31: Let us read the Arabic text:

اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبانهم أربابا من دون الله والمسيح ابن مريم

This can be rendered as: They (the Jews and Christians) took their Rabbis and Monks as Lords (read as Gods) besides Allah (the proper name of the God of Islam) and the Messiah the son of Mariam.

Why do you not tell us, the readers, the truth? Why do you make things up?
Dear readers: al-Tabari fixes this bizarre verse as follows:

فإن معناه: اتخذوا أحبارهم ورهبانهم والمسيحَ ابن مريم أربابًا من دون الله

Or: And this means: They took their Rabbis and Monks and the Messiah the son of Mariam Lords besides Allah.

al-Tabari is fixing this bizarre and embarrassing verse. What a disaster.

And by the way: The grammar is perfect if the text is understood as an Arabic text without any Aramaic influence. .

Remember that their is nothing better than the truth.

Please explain your translations.

Last, Yes the author of the Qur'an is accusing the Jews of being polytheists, which is ridiculous and no sane Jew would claim that Allah is the God of Israel.

Next? What does al-Tabari tell us about Q9:28? Hint: No Najis (the meaning is unclear but it could be filthy and unclean) Jews and Christians are allowed in mosques (notice the plural)! Muslims were concerned that they would become poor for not being able to trade with the "Najis" Jews and Christians. Bizarre logic.

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