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Mohsen Saleh: "Palestinian" Islamist Prof., Hamas, Iranian Mullacracy propagandist; inciter to violence, a bigot (alZaytouna)Reader comment on item: Rooting for Ahmadinejad Submitted by Sally (United States), Oct 29, 2022 at 19:17 محسن محمد صالح Mohsen Mohammad Saleh Palestinian National Council, Beirut المجلس الوطني الفلسطيني alzaytouna His 2004 book: He wrote on himself that he "firmly believes," "Palestine is an Islamic and Arab land." His verbatim in his opinion 2004 book on "Paletine," under 'Auhtor's introduction' What's great about his 'basis is that it admits he has a goal, which means, he is not about history, facts. Before he a narrates his bombastic propaganda narrative about post 1948... He lays his foundation that he and Muslims believe that all land they inhabit, automatically belongs to them. Although not in this exact verbatim. In order to support his opinion, he even inserted a line about Ishmael in the Biblical context, which he fails to mention that the Bible clearly casts him out (Genesis 21:12). About the historical dwelling in the land by the Jews, he ignores that some Jews never left the land. He calls David and Solomon as "prophets" and not kings. Then he mentioned Canaanites as if not realizing that the idea of Canaanites being there are rooted in the Bible which affirms they were gone after Joshua came. Not to mention the name "Palestine" was never mentioned in the Bible, but Judea, is. Then he dwells into the neo-Nazi --late 1990s - picking up after 911-- revived "khazar" myth [https://www.splcenter.org/search?keyword=Khazar] (he dares calling it "evidence" [http://digitalcommons.wayne.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1040&context=humbiol_preprints][https://honestreporting.com/todays-jews-are-descendants-of-khazar-converts-viable-theory-or-junk-science/]) and try to support his ideological aim via this debunked theory, not realizing that even if it were to be true that a portion of non Mizrahi have some connection to that myth (most Israelis are people of color, Mizrahi and others, by the way), a convert to Judaism is a Jew by all means, with all historical and cultural rights, because it's not about "race." (Though a Jew who converted is still a Jew, Halachically). Despite his transparent hinted satisfaction in face of anti Jewish intolerance seeming from his other writings, he failed to highlight the obvious rather -continuity- proof out of that, which is the same Jews are the Israelites, the same accused by clergy in the middle ages of being linked to Romans killing Jesus, then the default antisemitism which has followed throughout (before, during and after that myth was brought up). And of course the massive Arab migration, since the 1800, and especially in the 1920-1930s to the land is ignored, or the main families whose surnames point to their origin from other places, or where and how did the Arabic language become the local language. Then he he talks about post UN partition, Zionists fighting the "local population," but the other Arabs coming over as well as ex Nazis groups, not to mention the surrounding Armies - are all ignored. Some 18 years later, he pushed the aforementioned canard to incite hatred in the UK: Anger at student event promoted by publisher of 'antisemitic' material Feb 28, 2020 —The Union of Jewish Students said it would call for the event to be cancelled, describing the EuroPal Forum on Thursday as "an organisation which peddles the neo-Nazi myth that Jews are 'Khazars'."... Dr Mohsen Mohammad Saleh is yet to respond to a request for comment. [https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/anger-at-student-event-promoted-by-publisher-of-antisemitic-material/] SOAS opens its doors to EUROPAL and neo-Nazi antisemitism 2020-02-27 In March 2019, FOSIS held their annual Palestine Conference, co-hosted by Olive. It took place at Kings College. At this conference, a booklet was given out, titled 'Basic Facts on the Palestine issue'. It was written by Dr Mohsen Mohammad Saleh. The Khazar Myth and the Nazi – Arab alliance... [https://david-collier.com/europal/] May 13, 2020 Backgrounder: The Intrinsic Antisemitism Of BDS Lacking any scholarly credentials in either genetics or Middle East history, Sand's sole qualifications for authoring the book are his hard-core, anti-Jewish and anti-Zionist sentiments... For example, a conference promoting BDS that was hosted by SOAS Palestine Society at the University of London included an "educational" handout produced by the Hamas-linked Europal Forum endorsing the false Khazar claim. The propaganda pamphlet, entitled "Basic Facts on the Palestine Issue" was authored by Dr Mohsen Mohammad Saleh, who under the guise of presenting the history of the conflict claims that today's Jews are not descendants of the Israelites, have no historic ties or roots to the land and that today's Jews are racist interlopers. He writes... [https://cameraoncampus.org/blog/backgrounder-the-intrinsic-antisemitism-of-bds/] ______ Propagating for Hamas. After bombastic language and rewriting history, including presenting Iran it falsely as if it's some "reaction" and not already decades old with its genocidal calls and trying to rationalize Ahmadinejad. Quoting the Uranian hate monger: The Palestinian Strategic Report 2008, Al-Zaytouna Centre for Studies & Consultation, 2010, p. 208: 'and added in a programme in the Iranian television, "I had previously said that the real Holocaust[sic] is taking place in Palestine...' ____ Zaytouna wants Hamas to keep up fighting - Per NYT piece: Hamas Chief Revives Talk of Reuniting With P.L.O. By Anne Barnard, The New York Times, Nov. 28, 2012 [https://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/29/world/middleeast/leader-of-hamas-calls-for-palestinian-unity.html] ...Yet joining the P.L.O. is a difficult issue for Hamas, which pioneered suicide bombings against Israel, and for Mr. Meshal's Islamist base of support throughout the Arab world. In his remarks, he was careful to insist that Hamas was not abandoning its uncompromising stance. But Mr. Meshal faced skeptics at the conference, which was organized by the Al-Zaytouna Center for Studies and Consultations in Beirut. The meeting focused on empowering the movement against Israeli occupation after the collapse of pro-Western dictatorships in the region, and some presenters criticized Mr. Meshal for abandoning the cause just as it was gathering strength. _____ POLICY NOTES The Washington Institute for Near East Policy - No. 19- October 2014. Ehud Yaari. 'Hamas Searches for a New Strategy.' "... new book by Hamas supporters: Mohsen Saleh ed., Islamic Resistance ...al-Zaytouna Centre for Studies and Consultations, 2014)." [https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/media/2620] _____ In 2020: In digging up and old piece I'm the NYT's in 1987, quoting a then writer denying the Holocaust, while Mohsen added quotation marks on the Holocaust. [Political Analysis: Japanese... Mar 6, 2020] _____ In 2022: In a attempt to normalize Mullacracy of Iran Holocaust denial, he used such a line, deeming it negative to be "exaggerating the issue of the Holocaust." - What does that even mean? [Academic Paper: The Mirror Mental Images... June 6, 2022] _____ Palestinian Organizations, Islamist Figures, And Hamas Warn Of 'Unprecedented Incursion' By Jews Into Al-Aqsa Mosque During Upcoming Holidays, Urge Palestinians To March To Al-Aqsa And Remain There September 23, 2022 On September 17, 2022, the PSA Twitter account published a poster including a statement by Palestinian professor Mohsen Saleh urging Palestinians living in Israel "to double their efforts in protecting Jerusalem and the sacred places," saying: "Though we appreciate your remarkable role, the escalating Zionist attacks on Al-Aqsa and on Jerusalem require more efforts and sacrifices." [https://www.memri.org/reports/palestinian-organizations-islamist-figures-and-hamas-warn-unprecedented-incursion-jews-al#_edn1] ______________________ On that debunked myth: Are Jews Indigenous to the Land of Israel? Yes. Ryan Bellerose, February 08, 2017 Recent studies support the notion that some 80 percent of Jewish males, and 50 percent of Jewish females, can trace their ancestry to the Middle East. Early population genetics studies also confirm that "most Jewish Diaspora groups originated in the Middle East." Another study shows that even the first European Ashkenazi Jews were at least half Middle Eastern. [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/israel-middle-east/articles/bellerose-aboriginal-people] __ "Khazar Origin" Myth Attempts To Deploy Erroneous History To Push Antisemitism Nov 10, 2021 — From QAnon to neo-Nazism, the term "Khazar ..." is one seen often. Despite its ubiquitousness, there is a short supply of.. [https://www.antihate.ca/_khazar_origin_myth_erroneous_history_antisemitism] ___ Terra Incognita: The return of the Khazar myth Jan 2, 2013 — A recent study ('The missing link of Jewish European Ancestry') published online by the Oxford journal Genome Biology and Evolution.. [https://www.jpost.com/opinion/columnists/terra-incognita-the-return-of-the-khazar-myth] ___ Are Ashkenazi Jews Descended from Khazars? May 5, 2014 — Watch this lecture video of Prof. Shaul Stamfer of the Hebrew University, who challenges the Khazar conversion myth. [https://jewishstudies.washington.edu/video/are-jews-descended-from-khazars/] ___ Myth vs. fact: Are today's Jews the descendants of ancient Israelites? Aug 11, 2020 — They claim the Jewish people today are not descended from the ancient Hebrews and Israelites, and thus try to weaken the case for Zionism and ... [https://www.jns.org/opinion/myth-vs-fact-are-todays-jews-the-descendants-of-ancient-israelites/] ___ Tablet Magazine So, Who Were the Khazars? Jan 28, 2021 — Neither the genetic ancestors of Ashkenazi Jewry nor a myth. Introducing the new 'History Detective' column. [https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/history/articles/history-detective-shapira-khazars] ___ Junk Science': Ashkenazi Jews Are Not Descendants of Khazar Converts Jul 13, 2021 — The hypothesis has been debunked by virtually every field of science ___ Anti-Defamation League Antisemitic Conspiracy Theories Abound Around Russian Assault on Ukraine Mar 9, 2022 — Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine on February 24, 2022, extremists and antisemites across the ideological spectrum have used the war as... ___ Y Chromosome Bears Witness to Story of the Jewish Diaspora By Nicholas Wade, May 9, 2000 With a new technique based on the male or Y chromosome, biologists have traced the diaspora of Jewish populations from the dispersals that began in 586 B.C. to the modern communities of Europe and the Middle East. The analysis provides genetic witness that these communities have, to a remarkable extent, retained their biological identity separate from their host populations, evidence of relatively little intermarriage or conversion into Judaism over the centuries... Dr. Lawrence H. Schiffman, chairman of the department of Hebrew and Judaic Studies at New York University, said the study fit with historical evidence that Jews originated in the Near East and with biblical evidence suggesting that there were a variety of families and types in the original population. He said the finding would cause "a lot of discussion of the relationship of scientific evidence to the manner in which we evaluate long-held academic and personal religious positions," like the question of who is a Jew. The study, reported in today's Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, was conducted by Dr. Michael F. Hammer of the University of Arizona with colleagues in the United States, Italy, Israel, England and South Africa. The results accord with Jewish history and tradition and refute theories like those holding that Jewish communities consist mostly of converts from other faiths, or that they are descended from the Khazars, a medieval Turkish tribe that adopted Judaism. The analysis by Dr. Hammer and colleagues is based on the Y chromosome, which is passed unchanged from father to son. Early in human evolution, all but one of the Y chromosomes were lost as their owners had no children or only daughters, so that all Y chromosomes today are descended from that of a single genetic Adam who is estimated to have lived about 140,000 years ago... [https://www.nytimes.com/2000/05/09/science/y-chromosome-bears-witness-to-story-of-the-jewish-diaspora.html] ___ Abraham's children in the genome era: major Jewish diaspora populations comprise distinct genetic clusters with shared Middle Eastern Ancestry. G Atzmon, L Hao, I Pe'er, C Velez, A Pearlman, PF Palamara, B Morrow, E Friedman, C Oddoux, E Burns, H Ostrer For more than a century, Jews and non-Jews alike have tried to define the relatedness of contemporary Jewish people. Previous genetic studies of blood group and serum markers suggested that Jewish groups had Middle Eastern origin with greater genetic similarity between paired Jewish populations. However, these and successor studies of monoallelic Y chromosomal and mitochondrial genetic markers did not resolve the issues of within and between-group Jewish genetic identity. Here, genome-wide analysis of seven Jewish groups (Iranian, Iraqi, Syrian, Italian, Turkish, Greek, and Ashkenazi) and comparison with non-Jewish groups demonstrated distinctive Jewish population clusters, each with shared Middle Eastern ancestry, proximity to contemporary Middle Eastern populations, and variable degrees of European and North African admixture. Two major groups were identified by principal component, phylogenetic, and identity by descent (IBD) analysis: Middle Eastern Jews and European/Syrian Jews. The IBD segment sharing and the proximity of European Jews to each other and to southern European populations suggested similar origins for European Jewry and refuted large-scale genetic contributions of Central and Eastern European and Slavic populations to the formation of Ashkenazi Jewry. Rapid decay of IBD in Ashkenazi Jewish genomes was consistent with a severe bottleneck followed by large expansion, such as occurred with the so-called demographic miracle of population expansion from 50,000 people at the beginning of the 15th century to 5,000,000 people at the beginning of the 19th century. Thus, this study demonstrates that European/Syrian and Middle Eastern Jews represent a series of geographical isolates or clusters woven together by shared IBD genetic threads. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3032072/] ___ The Khazars ... Dr. Thomas Ice [...] The Khazar theory has been completely refuted by both scholarly research into the history of the Khazars and, more recently, by genetic evidence showing that Jews from all parts of the world are genetically closely related to Middle Eastern Jews and not so closely related to non-Jewish Russians, Eastern Europeans, or others from that region. "Dr. Michael Hammer showed that based exclusively on the Y- chromosome (parental) shows that Ashkenazi Jews are more closely related to Yemenite Jews, Iraqi Jews, Sephardic Jews, Kurdish Jews, and Arabs than they are to European Christian populations," notes Joel Baine rman. True research on the matter reveals that only a tiny percentage of Jews have any descent through the Khazars. So it appears that the Khazar theory is just that, a theory, and not a very good one. It is safe to conclude that most of the Jews living today in Israel and still in the Diaspora are clear descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob... [http://web.archive.org/web/20091223045248/http://www.pre-trib.org/articles/view/khazars-and-jews] ___ Are Jews a "Race"? ...or maybe a nation? Or just a DNA cluster? By Tzvi Freeman In 2015, 30 researchers from nine countries pooled their data to create "the largest data set available to date for assessment of Ashkenazi Jewish genetic origins." They concluded their analysis with a statement: 'We confirm the notion that the Ashkenazi, North African, and Sephardi Jews share substantial genetic ancestry and that they derive it from Middle Eastern and European populations, with no indication of a detectable Khazar contribution to their genetic origins.' [https://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/498027/jewish/Are-Jews-a-Race.htm] ___ That myth-none-sense of 'Khazars,' pushed by R. Islamists and Neo-Nazis alike Liberty News, 01-18-2012 Ever heard about the 'Khazar' myth pushed by both: the Neo-Nazis/KKK and radical Islamists? In fact, Jews are both a nation and a religion. The percentage of those with any [possible] roots in khazaria is so minimal, that there was only one non-historian "writer" that came up with the idea to say that the percentage is higher. As a penpal who is of Jewish background told me once: 'Before the WW2 we were told to go BACK to Palestine where we came from... now the same haters don't even grant us that...' Oddly enough, Hitler's "aryanism" and anti-Jewish sick obession was AGAINST The "khazar" myth, of course. But his followers wouldn't care about consistency. Just as the crazy inconsistent Nazis themselves preferred non-"Aryan"-features Muslim Bosnians over Christian Serbs. Hitler [despite his alliance with fascist Arab-Islamic leadership to exterminate the Jews out of bilnd hatred] refused to drink coffee with the Arab Mufti al-Husseini, Arabs in Germany were subject to the same 'racial' treatments as Jews were. Clearly, they liked power and 'ideology' was not the only thing motivating them. Haters always had the contradictions. You can not "blame" the Jews for (some of them) agreeing with the Romans to kill Jesus and than contradict yourself for not being the same Israelites/Hebrews/Jews... Luckilly for the recent DNA testing, this myth has (also) been exposed as a LIE. ____ Related: Op-Ed: No, Israel isn't a country of privileged and powerful white Europeans Hen Mazzig, May 20, 2019 I am Mizrahi, as are the majority of Jews in Israel today. We are of Middle Eastern and North African descent. Only about 30% of Israeli Jews are Ashkenazi, or the descendants of European Jews [https://www.latimes.com/opinion/op-ed/la-oe-mazzig-mizrahi-jews-israel-20190520-story.html] Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. For complete regulations, see the "Guidelines for Reader Comments". Reader comments (47) on this item
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