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Submitted by Robert (United States), Jan 12, 2023 at 13:21

Dear Nir,

I urge you to consider the Ottoman Empire and its collapse as a consequence of World War One (1914-1918). Arabs never experienced much Pan-Arabism, or Arab Nationalism, in part because everyone in their immediate neighborhood was ruled by followers of Muhammad, and by the time the Turks ruled over most of them, everyone was part of the Ummah, the Community of Believer in Allah, with Muhammad as His Prophet.

But as WWI came to a close, they were ruled by British and French Christian conquerors (non-Muslims!), and Jewish Zionist Israel was "planted" right in their mist! That was the shock of modernity which they first slightly experienced when Napoleon Bonaparte arrived in Egypt as Emperor of the French.

So the latest transition out of this "culture shock" is the Abrahamic Accords whereby the Arabs and Sunni Muslims appear willing to accept the reality of Jewish Israel re-constituted as an accepted presence in their midst. That is revolutionary: Jewish sovereignty in former Muslim land. Now, maybe, Spain too will be accepted (haha). But first, ISIS had to be defeated in Iraq and Syria by all, even Iran.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
1Charlie Hebdo of France vs. the Iran's Ayatollah [213 words]RobertJan 12, 2023 10:26290922
updated questions, Blinken "cannot support two allies at once" [856 words]DavidDec 27, 2022 21:43290283
United Arab Republic (1958-1971) [294 words]RobertJan 8, 2023 16:37290283
(Re Nasser etc.) Islamic themes throughout Arab nationalists [29 words]NirJan 11, 2023 03:46290283
Not to be fogotten - Muhammad was an Arab [71 words]RobertJan 11, 2023 14:25290283
The conflict was always the combined bigotry: Ethnic Arab racism and Islamist intolerance [63 words]NirJan 12, 2023 03:53290283
Non-Arab Muslim Ottoman Empire [188 words]RobertJan 12, 2023 13:21290283
Comment #1 re Ottomans [19 words]NirJan 12, 2023 18:37290283
2Muslims must understand that no land is inherently Islamic [92 words]PrashantJan 12, 2023 22:50290283
1Let us accelerate Islam's collapse under the weight of its own contradiction. [480 words]PrashantJan 14, 2023 23:05290283
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160 Years to removal of Ahmad Shukeiri from the UN post after endorsing Neo-Nazis [1299 words]NirDec 22, 2022 12:00289990
leading where? [80 words]mythDec 15, 2022 17:51289747
Before 1979, under the Shah, to what extent, if any, did Sharia (Law) apply? [91 words]RobertDec 16, 2022 18:52289747
National Council of Resistance of Iran & the former Shah's Son [224 words]RobertDec 14, 2022 17:53289703
we'll see [548 words]DavidDec 14, 2022 15:34289699
Prediction: Russia will intervene in Iran [170 words]DaveDec 14, 2022 13:39289696
prediction: in Syria [140 words]DavidDec 15, 2022 23:42289696
1There are leaders available [136 words]MalcolmDec 14, 2022 10:31289691

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