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Submitted by Dr.Steve Carol MEF Member (United States), Dec 19, 2006 at 12:24

Dear Dr. Pipes:

Thank you for publishing your newest article "Israel's Domestic Enemy." It echoes two earlier articles that I wrote last year and this. I reproduce them below for your interest and perhaps you will post them on your site, as "commentary" to your article. THANK YOU.

Dr. Steve Carol, MEF Member

Scottsdale, Arizona

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THE RIGHT QUESTION:

ARE THE TROOPS FINALLY COMING OUT OF THE TROJAN HORSE?

by Dr. Steve Carol ©

Oct. 24, 2005

The small group of American Jewish leaders who want to further assist Israeli Arabs (your story: "U.S. group wants to improve Israeli Arabs' status" Oct. 21, 2005) have blinded themselves to the reality of the situation today in Israel.

Whereas the Israeli Arabs have by and large, the highest standard of living among all Arabs in the Middle East, the highest education rates, the best medical attention, the longest life span and growing opportunities, the central fact is that today's Israeli Arabs consider themselves Palestinian Arabs first, and citizens of Israel last. This has been a growing fact since the Six Day War of 1967 and since the recognition of the PLO by the world in 1974. It was accelerated by the so called Oslo "peace process" of 1993. All of this was again confirmed to me by an Israeli visiting the Arab towns in the Galilee within the past two weeks.

A more open change in loyalty began to emerge in 2000 when Israeli Arabs rioted in favor of the start of the second, Al Aqsa, intifada. Many are active in working with the Palestinian Authority, and various terrorist organizations. Case in point: today (Oct. 24) two Israeli Arab dentists were arrested for spying for Hamas since the early 1990s. These are not impoverished persons seeking assistance. These are middle class Arabs who grew up in Israel and benefited from Israeli law to be able to travel abroad for their "studies" – their studies included espionage, and terrorist training. This is just the tip of the iceberg.

Many Israeli Arabs are in agreement with the "Palestinian"/Arab long standing demand, that once Israel retreats to the 1949 armistice lines, that Israel must allow the "democratic" process to work, which means allow the Israeli Arabs to secede, population and land area, from Israel and join the new "Palestinian" state, returning Israel to the 1947 UN partition lines, an untenable position.

In the Negev Hamas has already made inroads among the Bedouin. The Bedouin make up one-third of the population of the largely rural Negev. Many businessmen in Arad and Be'er Sheva have reported that they pay "protection money" to local Bedouin gangs to prevent their shops from arson or theft.. Israeli policemen are afraid to enforce the law, and privately have confided they stay away from Bedouin villages. A Bedouin intifada already is a fact, according to regional leaders and businessmen, who say law and order are totally foreign to the local Arab population. If most of the Negev goes, what remains of Israel --- a ghetto for Jews?

The Arab population of Israel has never shared the ideology and national ambitions of the Jewish State. Trying to "buy" the loyalty of these Arabs with yet more incentives of funding and education, after 58 years of such improvement programs is delusional. As the Israeli left makes claims that Israel is trying to make the Jewish state "Arab-rein" they have overlooked the fact that they have already been accomplices of the continual 100+ year Arab efforts to make the entire Middle East "judenrein."

The proof is in; the troops are out of the Trojan horse and within the city. Israel must wake up before it is too late.

Dr. Steve Carol

Prof. of History (retired)

Official Historian "Middle East Radio Forum" www.middleeastradioforum.org

Senior Fellow Center for Advanced Middle East Studies http://www.camesinfo.com

Scottsdale, Arizona

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THE RIGHT QUESTION:

JUST ON WHOSE SIDE ARE THE "ISRAELI" ARABS ANYWAY?

By Dr. Steve Carol ©

Feb. 20, 2006

(Featured on the www at Think-Israel.org Feb. 21, 2006)

On Feb. 15, 2006 two "Israeli" Arab political parties announced a merger. The United Arab List and the Ta'al Party formed a joint list for the forthcoming Israeli elections. New party chairman Ibrahim Sarsour stated that "We believe in Islam and in the Caliphate and not in separation between state and religion." He denounced the "Israelization" of the "Israeli" Arabs calling for Arab and Islamic rule over the Arab areas of Israel. Specifically Sarsour said the party would work to increase Arab immigration to the Jewish state and increase relations between Arabs with Israeli citizenship and the Palestinian Authority. His comments included praise for Hamas, and its recent election victory in the Gaza Strip as well as a denunciation of the United States and its government. Hamas now runs the Palestinian Authority. Sarsour called upon the Palestinian government of Hamas to lead the Arabs of both Israel and Palestine to "progress and achievements, not catastrophes," an allusion to the Nakbah – the catastrophe, as the Arabs of the region call it, that befell them when Israel was re-established in 1948.

The world knows what Hamas seeks to achieve, just by referring to the Hamas Covenant. Hamas wants the elimination of the State of Israel, and the removal of all Jews from the region by one means or another, no matter what borders may be established in the future. While many in the world urge Hamas to voice a change in its charter, any such announcement would be as worthless as those uttered by Yasir Arafat and the PLO in the past. Arafat on several occasion claimed that the PLO charter had been revised or abrogated, and factually never did it. Indeed Hamas leaders are meeting in Beirut, Lebanon, to tone down the rhetoric of their charter in order to keep Western funds streaming into the Palestinian Authority without actual changes to their desired end goal of the destruction of Israel. This demonstrates that "Israeli" Muslim Arabs consider themselves Arabs first, "Palestinians" second, and "Israeli" citizens last. They seek continually to use the freedom and democracy in Israel to undermine that very state. This has been a growing trend since the Six Day War of 1967 and since the recognition of the PLO by the world in 1974. Additionally the so-called Oslo "peace process" of 1993 accelerated it. A more open change in loyalty began to emerge in 2000 when Israeli Arabs rioted in favor of the start of "Al Aqsa (the second) intifada."

Many "Israeli" Arabs are active in working with the Palestinian Authority in addition to various terrorist organizations. For example, two Israeli Arab dentists were arrested for spying for Hamas since the early 1990s, last October. These were middle class Arabs who grew up in Israel and benefited from the Israeli law to be able to travel abroad for their "studies," which included espionage, and terrorist training. In the Negev Hamas has already made inroads among the Bedouin, where they make up one-third of the population of that largely rural desert region.

Many Israeli Arabs are in agreement with the Arab long standing demand, that once Israel retreats to the 1949 armistice lines – towards which they are now headed due to the policy of unilateral retreat and surrender – Israel must allow the "democratic" process to take place. A referendum would be demanded that would allow the Israeli Arabs to secede, population and land area, from Israel and join the new "Palestinian" state. This in turn means returning Israel to the 1947 UN partition lines, which is an indefensible position.

The Arab population of Israel has never shared the ideology and national ambitions of the Jewish State. They do not wish to integrate with, nor assimilate into the Israeli population. This is the same problem now confronting many nations in Europe vis-à-vis their own Muslim populations. Further unilateral Israeli concessions will greatly embolden the Arabs, both within Israel and outside of it, and their demands will continue to escalate. The democratic process will be subverted and used to destroy the Jewish State.

Those Arabs who do not want to be part of Israel, or "Israelized" as they put it, should move to Arab controlled areas of the Middle East. There will be, no doubt, cries from the Israeli left and their world-wide supporters that Israel is trying to make the Jewish state "Arab-rein." These same leftists have overlooked the fact that they already have been accomplices of the continual 125-year Arab war to make the entire Middle East "judenrein." In light of the positions taken by "Israeli" Arabs of late, it is time for Israel to wake up and face the harsh realities of the situation.

Dr. Steve Carol

Prof. of History (retired)

Senior Fellow Center for Advanced Middle East Studies www.camesinfo.com

Official Historian "Middle East Radio Forum" www.middleeastradioforum.org

Scottsdale, Arizona

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