Sadly, Lieberman's partly right.

Submitted by mariana (United States), Dec 20, 2006 at 14:11

Activist Muslims have been pushing the envelope and our buttons quite deliberately, using our most precious liberties, beliefs and concepts of justice against us, and forcing us to single THEM out for "special treatment." Most of us in America and Israel find this extremely distasteful, discriminatory and even immoral; however, we've been presented with facts on the ground which are indisputable. We simply cannot have large cadres of individuals amongst us, using our freedoms to murder, maim and bring us down. "Democracy is not a suicide pact."

At first, we waited, hopefully then expectantly for the "moderate Muslims" to come forth and put down these nihilistic "suiciders;" however, for whatever reason [my belief is that deep down, even "moderates" yearn for the "caliphate" and if they can get it while "keeping their hands clean," that's okay with them, so] they have not. Israeli and American non-muslim "Liberals" and the Peace Now types, choose to look through rose coloured glasses and pretend that "they're just like us and want the same things."

Unfortunately, having watched 3 Intifadahs where parents let their children avoid school [considering the hateful crap they're teaching, perhaps this is a benefit] and run wild in the streets, fronting for "freedom fighters with guns," one must see there are serious doubts that this is true. Somewhere, there has to be accountability. Society cannot function with an active, murderous fifth column which is anarchistic, violent and suicidal running amok.

The question then becomes "How do we keep our values and our lives within the framework of our Constitutions and/or laws?" Do we demand that EVERYONE swear an oath? Would this even be useful? Is it even necessary? There are laws in the US and Israel controlling BEHAVIORS. These laws are simply NOT enforced [Israeli muslims & ultra orthodox joining in holocaust denial conference in Iran, American congress members ignoring policy and laws, going to Syria & Iran {and Nicaragua & Cuba before them} ], because there are those who characterize any such enforcement as discriminatory, and we simply cannot "discriminate," thus, the circular firing squad is complete. Much of the problem stems from the current manner of communication - filled with PC circumlocutions, one atop the other to the point where there is no clarity and the point at issue becomes deconstructed down to meaninglessness.

People on all sides need to be forced to speak clearly and bluntly and really communicate. Some of us who follow particular issues intensely, understand the "codes," but the majorities who are too busy putting food on the table, roofs over heads, raising their children and living their lives, simply have neither the time nor inclination [and, considering the state of education, often also lack the skills] to do the research required for translation. The unforgivable, however, is the attitude of the permanent foreign policy establishments who should know better. It is utterly beyond my to understand why Condi Rice and the rest of them are prattling on about a "2 state solution" at this point, with Pali's killing each other and the rest of the arab muslim world gleefully waiting for the spark to set the world aflame.

There is no rational way to believe that shortening Israel's security borders with people who are out front declared mortal enemies is a solution to anything but annihilation. And what happened to the 2 state solution of the Balfour Declaration, which explicitly made Jordan and Israel the "2 states?" The years post Oslo/Clinton/Barak have made it clear that the Palestinians are utterly incapable of ruling themselves. "Palestinians" consist simply of murderously squabbling gangs of thugs: look at the recent gunfights and assassinations in front of elementary schools with THEIR OWN CHILDREN in the middle on the streets?

There were no Israelis involved in any of this lunacy, and if there are ANY Pali's who do not belong to and/or root for one thug faction or the other, I've seen absolutely no trace of them. Perhaps the most fiscally sound [and ultimately compassionate] way to deal with people in America and Israel who are not content to be peaceful, law abiding citizens, is to buy them out, give them ultra-short-term passports, and deport them. Give them fair market value for their properties and a one way ticket to whatever Paradise they use as the comparative, against which Israel and America fall so short.

ma

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