to Octavio on European experiments with islam

Submitted by AS (India), Mar 23, 2007 at 00:55

Hello Octavio,

I am a Hindu living in India. and I find the BNP perfectly rational but short sighted in their approach. Having studied and lived in the US I got enough exposure to middle easten people. and I am talking about ppl studying in the best colleges in America. You got to realize. They hate you. Hindus and Japanese are also different from Western ppl, but we dont hate the west to death. They do.

Of course not all of them are like that. But the ones who are control their societies. Even if you stop immigration NOW, their birth rates are gonna put them in majority in the coming decades. In India before the Brits arrived, muslims largely were in power. when Brits were about to leave, they realised in a democracy they wont have their islamic rule, and they asked for partition. stupid politically correct leaders here opted for secularism. As a result a chunk stayed and now are demanding self rule in muslim majority areas! what do u think are they gonna do in Europe? If you think ScotlandvsEnglandvsIreland is tricky, then wait for whats coming! They will come up with absurd demands and rights that will be always orthogonal to your viewpoints.

The problem is that 80% of their character is defined by their religion which is just an imperialistic extension of an arab maniac. that religion has no philosophical or spiritual or theological foundations through which you can reach them! As a society they are parastic and predatory in nature. Hindus/Sikhs/Chinese are also not completely integrated in British society. But they are not a threat. We treat cow as special and cow slaughter is not allowed in India. Technically you might expect Hindu 'sensitivities' to be hurt when McDonalds dishes out its burgers in London or NewYork. But Barclays was forced to remove its 'piggy' bank advertisement because muslim senstivities were hurt! They will keep asking you for this n that unless you go mad and runaway or fight back. as individuals you might find a lot of 'normal' muslims but thats inconsequential. Make no mistake they are a threat. and I think citizenshp laws in Europe should be changed.

The trashy multiculturalism that is being promoted is just going to lead to more misery. No non-muslim can become a citizen in Saudi (though these jokers need them even to dig their oil and run their banks). The problem with the people who are concerned is that they are trying to think of solutions in a 5 yr span. Its not gonna work. atleast on this front Europe can learn from islamists. They want to conquer the west via immigration in EVENTUAL future. People concerned should realize that it is a problem thats gonna persist through generations. They have to educate each other and their children to be mentally prepared for this reality.

They are already in, and they should be told to go. If you dont do that then prepare for biweekly riots like in India (17% muslims) or civil war in Lebanon (over 50%) or eventual collapse. You can count the number of Christians in Turkey today on ur hand. and thats the example of a secular muslim nation!! I dont even wanna go into what happens in Pakistan, Egypt or Bangladesh to nonmuslims. You got to understand, you are dealing with an ideology. just like Hitlers. That guy from day 1 knew, what he wanted and told. the rest didnt listen. its exactly the same. and u know that at no point of time were all Germans nazis, just the same as not all muslims are fanatics. the masses can be easily led anywhere.

The problem with Europe is manifold. fanatic secularism. mockery of the church. and belief in universality of their value systems. I can go on and on, but all I wanna say is that if you think there is a compromise, you are fooling yourself. and in the scenario, you are being I daresay, irresponsible to your kids and your future generation.

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