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The FOXBAT mission doesn't imply the Soviets instigated the 1967 war

Reader comment on item: Foxbats Did Fly over Dimona

Submitted by Charles Martel (United States), Aug 24, 2007 at 11:45

The FOXBAT recon mission did occur (there is clear contemporary U.S. evidence) and it's easy to imagine that Bezhevets is just maintaining Soviet-style secrecy on it.

However, the Soviets didn't have direct control of Nasser or Assad to the degree of being able to order a war with Israel, and they didn't need a war to fly a recon mission over Israel.

I don't know that much about the 1967 War, and I just saw a 2-hour TV history that mentioned the Soviets told the Arabs that Israel was about to attack (which was news to me) but I do not think the two things are causally linked even if the Soviet lie to the Arabs is real.

I would argue that if the Soviets just wanted to overfly Dimona for recon, the safest thing to do would be do it as a complete surprise in peacetime.

During the war, there was a maximum chance the Israelis would immediately shoot it down assuming it to be hostile, while a single aircraft overflying in peacetime would be more ambiguous and the air defenses would inevitably be not-as-ready in peacetime.

Consider the safety of an unannounced flight over Pearl Harbor on 6 December 1941 vs. 8 December 1941.

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Title Commenter Date Thread
SEND IN THE NUKES. [228 words]DAVID J FEIGEROct 17, 2012 01:53199871
A Call for More Research on the Role of State-Sponsorship in Conflicts More Generally [151 words]AlexNov 5, 2007 00:18113110
Saida 1982 [150 words]UgriSep 9, 2008 03:05113110
Daniel, please read The Fifty Year War [62 words]Tom DavisSep 21, 2007 19:10109408
Hiding [57 words]David W. LincolnSep 21, 2007 10:32109377
This stuff again? [155 words]Wayne WagnerAug 29, 2007 00:25107154
Of course this is not news! [47 words]MosheSep 2, 2007 06:56107154
The inability of the world to write about any event which exonerates Israel. [175 words]Mladen AndrijasevicAug 27, 2007 02:03107040
Dimona libel [91 words]jacob CH.Aug 28, 2007 12:38107040
Russian denial [92 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 25, 2007 17:54106974
1The lie is compounded [214 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDAug 25, 2007 14:34106970
The FOXBAT mission doesn't imply the Soviets instigated the 1967 war [206 words]Charles MartelAug 24, 2007 11:45106902
RTWT [35 words]Brian HAug 24, 2007 17:50106902
1Martel, you do not realize [202 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDAug 25, 2007 14:46106902
None of this implies the Soviets instigated the 1967 war to overfly Dimona [342 words]Charles MartelAug 27, 2007 11:21106902
Of course not! They overflew Dimona prior the 1967 war. [121 words]MosheSep 2, 2007 07:34106902
That is a different story, and plausible [133 words]Charles MartelSep 25, 2007 17:21106902
This was the story from its beginning, and as at last you correctly admitted: It is indeed plausible. [24 words]MosheOct 8, 2007 04:21106902
"Plausible" is a pretty weak statement, and I'm not blaming Israel for 1967 war [344 words]Charles Martel (the baffled)Nov 5, 2007 12:52106902

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