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"Plausible" is a pretty weak statement, and I'm not blaming Israel for 1967 war

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in response to reader comment: This was the story from its beginning, and as at last you correctly admitted: It is indeed plausible.

Submitted by Charles Martel (the baffled) (United States), Nov 5, 2007 at 12:52

I absolutely don't understand the political passion of this very secondary issue. ... The ARABS provoked the war, not Israel or the Soviets.

Having re-read the original story, I still don't see a claim that the Soviets planned to attack Dimona and provoked the 1967 war to do so. (I didn't read all the secondary links, I admit, so perhaps it was in one of those.)

I thought the news was that there was now Russian, public-domain information about the Foxbat flight over Dimona (and it is always handy and interesting when something secret is now in the public domain.)

Various Russians confirming the Foxbat overflight is not evidence that a Soviet attack was imminent, nor that the Soviets mislead the Arabs into war to accomplish this.

Further, I want to reiterate that I still don't believe the Soviets provoked the 1967 war to attack Dimona (although as I said, it is plausible -- at least the alleged motive would be adequate to the action.)

I believe the Soviets provided weapons to the Arabs and when the Arabs felt ready, they attacked. You don't need warmongers in Moscow or Tel Aviv to explain that!

So, I'm (genuinely) sorry if you take this as an anti-Israel statement (because it is NOT), but I maintain that Moscow did not provoke the 1967 war, to attack Dimona or for any other reason. The Soviets were my bag, and they liked international trouble, but they didn't like their fingerprints on it.

Having said that (again), the contrary claim is plausible.

Another (to me, more) plausible scenario is that the Soviets knew the Arabs were getting ready for war and intended to use the war for a strike on Dimona, and the war was over too quickly.

So, agree with me or not, I'm making a narrow statement and it is not anti-Israel or pro-Soviet.

From a Zionist point of view, I would think it is BETTER to say the ARABS attacked in 1967 as the bloodthirsty savages they are, rather than saying they were mislead by the Soviets.

Submitting....

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SEND IN THE NUKES. [228 words]DAVID J FEIGEROct 17, 2012 01:53199871
A Call for More Research on the Role of State-Sponsorship in Conflicts More Generally [151 words]AlexNov 5, 2007 00:18113110
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Daniel, please read The Fifty Year War [62 words]Tom DavisSep 21, 2007 19:10109408
Hiding [57 words]David W. LincolnSep 21, 2007 10:32109377
This stuff again? [155 words]Wayne WagnerAug 29, 2007 00:25107154
Of course this is not news! [47 words]MosheSep 2, 2007 06:56107154
The inability of the world to write about any event which exonerates Israel. [175 words]Mladen AndrijasevicAug 27, 2007 02:03107040
Dimona libel [91 words]jacob CH.Aug 28, 2007 12:38107040
Russian denial [92 words]Rebecca MouldsAug 25, 2007 17:54106974
1The lie is compounded [214 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDAug 25, 2007 14:34106970
The FOXBAT mission doesn't imply the Soviets instigated the 1967 war [206 words]Charles MartelAug 24, 2007 11:45106902
RTWT [35 words]Brian HAug 24, 2007 17:50106902
1Martel, you do not realize [202 words]Yuval Brandstetter MDAug 25, 2007 14:46106902
None of this implies the Soviets instigated the 1967 war to overfly Dimona [342 words]Charles MartelAug 27, 2007 11:21106902
Of course not! They overflew Dimona prior the 1967 war. [121 words]MosheSep 2, 2007 07:34106902
That is a different story, and plausible [133 words]Charles MartelSep 25, 2007 17:21106902
This was the story from its beginning, and as at last you correctly admitted: It is indeed plausible. [24 words]MosheOct 8, 2007 04:21106902
"Plausible" is a pretty weak statement, and I'm not blaming Israel for 1967 war [344 words]Charles Martel (the baffled)Nov 5, 2007 12:52106902

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