Have problems with what you stated, Dr. Pipes.

Submitted by Ynnatchkah (United States), Mar 24, 2008 at 14:55

Had problems with what you stated, Dr. Pipes and I hope you do not get angry at me for that. To me it was breathtaking. You said:

"....We can't fight something with nothing. And it is the moderate Muslims who are in the course of formulating this alternative."…

"…So if one freezes them out, gives up on them, saying "they're part of the problem too," what is one left with?"...

First of all, I still stand by the point that moderate Muslims are good human beings who either do not know any better, or cannot change their circumstances in life, due to social/financial pressure. The concept of moderation in Islam looks vast, highly deceiving/unpredictable and may turn up side down at any moment, for what still Islam itself is their final master: Islam and kindness/happiness/peace is an oxymoron.

Due to the instability of the concept of moderation and due to the fact that either they do not take action enough to stop radicals or their action is insignificant as a result of how many moderates would confront radicals, to base upon all solutions on "supporting moderate Muslims"(blindly) is dangerous- truly instable.

Myself I do not consider Wafa Sultan a Muslim anymore. She is an apostate.

So As I understood, we have to deal with what we have left, not b/c it is a good alternative, but b/c it is just we all have?

Your final question was "…what is one left with?"…

I believe we all have to fight in several fronts, absolutely concomitantly:

1. Yes, support proved moderate Muslims such as (Waffa Sultan- if ones consider her still within the spectrum of Islam), Abdul Pallazi, Arabs for Israel, and Stephen Schwartz.

1. Human beings have to fight the Oil Imperialism and Oppression of Islam, when implementing the usage of Ethanol and the Fisher-Tropsch process technology. (Terror Oil free fights in part for that) as a first step.

1. Human Beings have to fight against the support that the Federal Reserve gives to financial institutions in WS, an un-conditional support is given to them b/c major shareholders/ cash holders are Muslims and sours abiders- thus the blackmailers.

1. Human beings have to fight against the ongoing extermination of infidels in the African continent to avoid the expansion of Islam, the Dar- Al Islam lands imperialism, and ultimately b/c once Muslims take over Africa, they take over minerals, and all sorts of basic commodities, such as those primarily based upon copper, gold and platinum, which basically increases their financial oppression through the manipulation of the price of the minerals, the ETFs and Mutual funds based upon these commodities, the financial media (which they already have) and ultimately securities- so in an exponential growth they take over EVEN MORE the world. (UN Watch does a good service on that).

1. The proper correction of the UN and the condemnation of Zieglers and allies in the UN.

1. The ultimate expulsion of the liberals, leftists, liberals and mental disorder beings abiders from the educational system...

I could write even more, but I already abused the availability of room in here...

Thanks- again hope you do not get angry.

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