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Reader comment on item: Hating Valentine's Day
in response to reader comment: now we can have a productive debate, Lactantius Jr
Submitted by Lactantius Jr. (United Kingdom), Apr 27, 2008 at 15:49
To Abdul
I greet you with the peace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace, and I thank you for the graciousness of your words.
In all my interactions with you Abdul, I will seek to line up with the Christian Scriptures which tell me to "Be always ready to give a reason to anybody who asks you to explain why you believe the way you do, but do so with gentleness and respect." 1 Peter 3:15 as a "Workman who correctly handles the Word of Truth." 2 Timothy 2:15
Time permitting, I look forward to us continuing our dialogue in amity, and just as soon as I am able, I will respond to your posting of 17th.January 2008, doing so as best as I am able, sourcing my response in the Qur'an, Qur'anic Tafsir, Sahi Hadith, and the Sirat and Ta'rikh literature.
With kind regards and best wishes
Lactantius Jr.
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 Valentine is not about love but an excessive lust [240 words] | Wildan | Feb 12, 2010 04:42 | 156988 | ||
| pity [97 words] | Shaima | Feb 14, 2010 08:19 | 156988 | ||
| responding to of course islamist hate valentines day it is about love/ by phil greend [175 words] | mister omalley | Aug 12, 2012 17:34 | 156988 | ||
| Valentine is nothing but consumerism and cheap sex [79 words] | Right! | Jan 19, 2009 22:36 | 148476 | ||
| 2 | we must come out from mental slavery of west [68 words] | syed mohammad ali | Feb 19, 2008 07:46 | 120517 | |
| 2 | Culture Killer [137 words] | A Fed-Up Malay | Aug 28, 2009 16:00 | 120517 | |
| 1 | Valentines Day [97 words] | T.J. | Jun 27, 2007 01:42 | 101675 | |
| NOT HATING BUT WHY 1 PATICULAR DAY... [440 words] | merziyah | Feb 19, 2007 10:59 | 77917 | ||
| Well-said. (End) [8 words] | Omar Kaj | Feb 25, 2007 16:20 | 77917 | ||
| SO RIGHT!!!! [16 words] | Sara | Oct 27, 2007 12:47 | 77917 | ||
| Would you fast on ramadhan? [129 words] | Amy/Amina Myer | Feb 12, 2008 14:03 | 77917 | ||
| I don't get it [88 words] | Anonymous | Oct 28, 2008 18:07 | 77917 | ||
| Totally Agree [60 words] | Oduniyi Yunus | Feb 14, 2009 03:07 | 77917 | ||
| Valentine beheaded [49 words] | JJJoseph | Feb 14, 2007 20:58 | 77250 | ||
| What's the problem? [200 words] | Neill Wylie | Feb 14, 2007 14:18 | 77191 | ||
| who are you describing [25 words] | Terry | Feb 24, 2007 18:30 | 77191 | ||
| Re: who are you describing [12 words] | Omar | Feb 28, 2007 08:37 | 77191 | ||
| observations [63 words] | pattyomalley | Aug 17, 2012 09:45 | 77191 | ||
| Commercial Day [132 words] | Ahmad | Feb 14, 2007 01:52 | 77127 | ||
| Educate yourself [135 words] | Sarah | Feb 12, 2007 21:33 | 76966 | ||
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| Valentine's day [98 words] | JoJo | Feb 15, 2007 15:32 | 76966 | ||
| Re: Valentine's day [82 words] | Omar Kaj | Feb 20, 2007 12:43 | 76966 | ||
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| Moslems MUST and ALWAYS love other Moslems........... [100 words] | Timothy | Feb 19, 2007 22:01 | 35304 | ||
| tolerating traditions [36 words] | Mrx | Feb 22, 2007 03:45 | 35304 | ||
| WHAT !? [187 words] | Timothy | Feb 22, 2007 21:51 | 35304 | ||
| normal response [168 words] | Terry | Feb 24, 2007 18:23 | 35304 | ||
| What can I say [6 words] | Terry | Feb 24, 2007 18:33 | 35304 | ||
| Think [342 words] | Rehman Baig Mirza | Apr 1, 2007 09:40 | 35304 | ||
| Not Agree with this tradition! [7 words] | Gul Nabi | Feb 12, 2008 21:52 | 35304 | ||
| Valentine's day an unislamic tradition [163 words] | Seeme Nazir | Feb 14, 2008 08:38 | 35304 | ||
| Valentine's Day boycot is muslim country reason. [115 words] | faiz khan | Feb 1, 2006 01:36 | 33365 | ||
| Re: Valentine's Day boycott is muslim country reason. [38 words] | Omar Kaj | Mar 1, 2007 13:20 | 33365 | ||
| valentine day-islam- muslim festivals [336 words] | fiazfazili | Feb 14, 2008 05:36 | 33365 | ||
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| Valentine's day in Mumbai, India [359 words] | K. Agarwal | Mar 28, 2005 17:20 | 21192 | ||
| What will they ban next? Christmas? [18 words] | Seema | Feb 10, 2009 12:55 | 21192 | ||
| Hating Valentine's Day [75 words] | Pat | Feb 11, 2005 14:48 | 20274 | ||
| valentine - and so what [112 words] | meena | Feb 16, 2006 09:47 | 20274 | ||
| Valentine's Day [43 words] | Jonathan | Mar 8, 2004 21:40 | 14121 | ||
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| Muslims [116 words] | Proud to be an infidel! | Jul 27, 2007 04:29 | 14121 | ||
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| 4 | Malaysian Muslim Hypocrites [174 words] | Tom Peters | Feb 28, 2004 04:40 | 14015 | |
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| accusation [87 words] | miranda | Nov 26, 2007 09:46 | 14015 | ||
| Get the fact right [104 words] | Consuella | Mar 30, 2009 09:31 | 14015 | ||
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| Holiday Based On A Certain Christian Saint [108 words] | AnneM | Feb 18, 2007 17:39 | 13943 | ||
| What is the point? [111 words] | Dagmar | Feb 19, 2004 16:34 | 13939 | ||
| In the dark [33 words] | Ted | Feb 19, 2004 16:29 | 13938 | ||
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| Commenter Peter J. Hertz has missed the point [176 words] | Adam Greaves | Feb 17, 2004 23:34 | 13912 | ||
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| dk [21 words] | samia | Feb 13, 2006 11:55 | 13901 | ||
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| 3 | "Some examples why Islam is not a perfect way of life" [355 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Feb 18, 2007 19:55 | 13901 | |
| Not holding my breath [299 words] | Terry | Feb 24, 2007 19:13 | 13901 | ||
| Re: "Some examples why Islam is not a perfect way of life" [3166 words] | Omar Kaj | Feb 28, 2007 17:06 | 13901 | ||
| "Is Islam peaceful and peaceloving. What do Islams most authoritative documents say?" [2748 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Mar 5, 2007 18:19 | 13901 | ||
| Re: "Is Islam peaceful and peaceloving. What do Islams most authoritative documents say?" [92 words] | Omar | Mar 7, 2007 08:11 | 13901 | ||
| part 2 [933 words] | Omar | Mar 8, 2007 02:43 | 13901 | ||
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| "Give us some examples of just how peaceful Muhammad was" [43 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Nov 6, 2007 11:40 | 13901 | ||
| Lactantius Jr. [202 words] | abdul muiiz | Nov 27, 2007 14:41 | 13901 | ||
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| Please explain [65 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Nov 28, 2007 04:02 | 13901 | ||
| ramble on.... [162 words] | donvan | Nov 28, 2007 17:02 | 13901 | ||
| in your words [57 words] | abdul muiiz | Nov 30, 2007 02:56 | 13901 | ||
| Please give us some examples of just how peaceful and peaceloving Muhammad was [66 words] | Lactantius Jr | Dec 19, 2007 05:38 | 13901 | ||
| understanding! [58 words] | abdul muiiz | Dec 19, 2007 23:33 | 13901 | ||
| still waiting [14 words] | abdul muiiz | Dec 19, 2007 23:40 | 13901 | ||
| 2 | "Do Islam's most authoritative documents say Muhammad was a terrorist?" [2990 words] | Lactantius Jr | Jan 14, 2008 16:05 | 13901 | |
| Lactantius Jr "Do Islam's most authoritative documents say Muhammad was a terrorist?" [1903 words] | abdul muiiz | Jan 17, 2008 19:22 | 13901 | ||
| Does "Islam" mean peace? was Islam spread by the sword? was Muhammad a terrorist? [170 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Feb 4, 2008 15:14 | 13901 | ||
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| "Glad not sad" [3975 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Mar 9, 2008 16:19 | 13901 | ||
| Lactantius Jr. ..............even nadia (15yrs old) knows! [23 words] | abdul muiiz | Apr 23, 2008 17:01 | 13901 | ||
| Lactantius Jr.....bully? [184 words] | abdul muiiz | Apr 23, 2008 17:19 | 13901 | ||
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| "Lactantius Jr.................bully?" a response [252 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Apr 24, 2008 17:26 | 13901 | ||
| now we can have a productive debate, Lactantius Jr [90 words] | abdul muiiz | Apr 24, 2008 19:46 | 13901 | ||
| response [342 words] | Nadia | Apr 25, 2008 01:01 | 13901 | ||
| Our dear abd al-mu3iz and his big time falsafa [217 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 25, 2008 06:51 | 13901 | ||
| "Response with corrections" [600 words] | Lactantius Jr | Apr 27, 2008 15:44 | 13901 | ||
 "Let amicable discussion continue" [153 words] | Lactantius Jr. | Apr 27, 2008 15:49 | 13901 | ||
| like i said [32 words] | Nadia | May 1, 2008 04:29 | 13901 | ||
| Dhimmi no more, you want my time, OK, hope you can handle it, " Our dear Abdul Muiiz rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiy'" [530 words] | abdul muiiz | May 2, 2008 17:02 | 13901 | ||
| Our dear 3Abd al-mu3iz [69 words] | dhimmi no more | May 3, 2008 08:53 | 13901 | ||
| "knowing religion and knowing Jesus Christ" [186 words] | Lactantius Jr. | May 3, 2008 17:13 | 13901 | ||
| lantatius jr , lantatius jr [30 words] | abdul muiiz | May 3, 2008 17:59 | 13901 | ||
| " Our dear Abdul Muiiz rabina yu3alimuhu al-lugha al-3arabiy'" response 2 [124 words] | abdul muiiz | May 3, 2008 20:21 | 13901 | ||
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| 2 | "Was Islam Spread By The Sword?" [4489 words] | Lactantius Jr | May 6, 2008 17:46 | 13901 | |
| 3 | "Let There Be No Compulsion In Religion" [1732 words] | Lactantius Jr. | May 6, 2008 17:59 | 13901 | |
| 2 | "Islam is the fastest growing religion in America and Europe" a response [564 words] | Lactanius Jr. | May 6, 2008 18:07 | 13901 | |
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| Repetition [80 words] | Terry | Feb 24, 2007 19:21 | 13894 | ||
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| P.S. ... [46 words] | Omar Kaj | Feb 26, 2007 01:52 | 13894 | ||
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