Joris- You are entirely missing the point - Radical Islam knows no sovereignty!

Submitted by sara (United States), Jun 20, 2008 at 17:24

Joris, sorry to butt into your conversation, but I could not get past your faulty ( and insulting) reasoning.

No, Iraq did not attack America on her soil. Iraq was shooting down planes and defying SIXTEEN U.N. Resolutions to stand down from attacking and developing WMD (whether Saddam actually had any is another subject of debate, but obviously everyone, including his top generals, thought he did, as did WORLD intelligence).

But, do you remember the history a few years prior? Like when Iraq (under Saddam) attacked and took over Kuwait?? Remember that? How the US and allies had to go in to liberate defenseless Kuwait? If you want to say that they were trying to protect oil interests, so be it, but that was what initiated the Iraq conflict. After the US (foolishly) allowed Saddam to stay in power, he continued to develop WMD (or made it appear so) , attack flyovers and throw out UN inspectors who had many suspicions, and gave the impression to intelligence that he would be a deadly enemy once they were developed.

PLEASE remember that the UN, UK, EU, Etc. etc were ALL singing the same song. The UN and France (whose Chiraq was in the tank taking big $$$$ from Saddam) were too chicken to ACT on their paper resolutions and threats. That was the only issue. Of course, you know of the Oil for Food scandals that were later uncovered and all the profiteering that was going on at the expense of the poor Iraqi people.

The US took out Saddam and his tortuous sadistic barbaric regime, after he had gassed the Kurds, tried to annihilate the Marsh Arabs, tortured and murdered hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians. How can you be opposed to that? The US is working furiously, spending our own blood and treasure, to get Iraq stabilized, give them an economy, a democracy, I hear so many Iraqis begging the US to stay there and help.
And you really think we are in it for the OIL? Why then is OIL rising? So much for kickbacks! Where are you hearing of special price breaks for the US? I only wish it were so!

Now, after clearing that matter up, let us address your other point- Al Qaeda.

Please understand that the Islamist radical extremism/fundamentalism/fascism is not contained within borders of countries. It does not recognize or apply to any nation's sovereignty. Jihadists go all around the world to fight in any place that they perceive MUSLIMS need to fight. Muslim land knows no borders. All terror groups have the same ideology and goals, be they Al Qaeda, Hamas, Hezbollah, Jamat Al Islamiya, Islamic Jihad, etc, etc. There are scores of Saudis, Syrians, Palestinians, Pakistanis etc in Iraq. There is the same in Afghanistan.

We are not at war with a COUNTRY . we are at war with a religious ideology and a political movement. There are thousands of Jihadist attacks all around the world. Look at your own country. Look at France, UK, Denmark, Belgium, Germany. The ideology is united, so wherever they happen to be, and at the moment they are massing in Iraq, that is where they need to be fought, and better there than in your neighborhood or mine.

When they feel they are defeated in a large scale way, they will slip back into the holes they came from. That is the only way to stop this madness engulfing the world.

So before you go denigrating a person who is supporting this war with her own flesh and blood, think about these things next time you pontificate.

Regards,

sara

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