no tricks at all

Submitted by the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan (Australia), Aug 26, 2008 at 22:54

In my last post I responded to Mansoor's plea for more tolerance of Islam. I said: "I would suggest that Muslims show good faith and excise at least this saying of your illustrious Mohammed from your scriptures: "the messenger of Allah PBUH said: "The hour of judgment shall not happen until the Muslims fight the Jews. The Muslims shall kill the Jews to the point that the Jew shall hide behind a big rock or a tree and the rock or tree shall call on the Muslim saying: hey, O Muslim there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him, except the Gharqad tree which will not say, for it is the tree of Jews." If you do reply - please concentrate on how you are going to justify this last paragraph while simultaneously attacking Jews and pleading for tolerance for Islamism."

Mansoor - in his latest post tries the well-used statement by Muslims that things were 'take out of context'. In his post he states: "........... Out of context quoting of Quran is an old trick of Kafirs. This is not new for us Better read below!!!" Mansoor - if you are referring to my quoting the above passage from your 'scripture' - please explain to us about how this remarkable statement about FUTURE EVENTS from your leader has been taken 'out of context'.

Mo is referring to Jews hiding behind trees isn't he? And he is saying that Muslims will kill the Jews isn't he? And he is saying the trees and rocks will call out isn't he? And you have not given the explanation about how you can both plead for tolerance for Islamism and at the same time expect us to respect let alone support an ideology which has hatred of Jews as a part if its core. "......

Permission (to fight) is given to those against whom fighting is launched, because they have been wronged, and Allah is powerful to give them victory. [22:40] " Oh, OK, therefore you shouldn't have any problem with the USA's retaliation against the system that created 9/11. and that just doesn't end with bin Laden. Neither should you have a problem with Israel ridding itself of the vermin who attack in from its northern borders. "....Had Allah not been repelling some people by means of some others, the monasteries, the churches, the synagogues and the mosques where Allah‘s name is abundantly recited would have been demolished."

Mansoor, you seem to be be slightly mistaken here - I've been to churches and synagogues and I can tell you categorically that Allah's name is definitely NOT 'abundantly recited in churches and synagogues'. That might be the way you'd like to imagine things but it just doesn't happen. In fact , in Ottoman countries and other countries in the Islamosphere - churches and synagogues have been demolished by Muslims (you'd say acting on Allah's orders no doubt ?). "...... Allah will definitely help those who help Him (by defending the religion prescribed by Him."

Another exhortation to violence used by Islamists - along with punishing/killing apostates etc . No religion is higher than truth and truth needs no defence. "........ Islam lost power just because they rested and stopped fighting against Kaafirs." Islam lost its power because it's just a big psychic black hole that has subverted the minds of millions of its adherents away from truth and into ignorance posing as truth. "......

Now they are back on track....Tons and Tons of Muslim blood already spilled on the earth in the past few years but the revival cannot be stopped!!!! better wait and watch!!" Mansoor showing his atavistic tendencies again. I could drag through previous posts and find his myriad references where he speaks with delight at the idea of 'crushing the skulls of infidels' etc etc, but I can't be bothered. So, going back to the initial point - Mansoor , explain exactly how and when quotes from the Koran and Hadiths are taken out of context rather than just making an accusation without any evidence.

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