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WHICH IS BETTER?
Reader comment on item: Westerners Welcome Harems
in response to reader comment: WHICH IS BETTER?
Submitted by Rawi (Singapore), Nov 29, 2008 at 23:23
Thanks Infidel & Mary Connor for their responses.
Infidel: You've quoted part of Surah 4: Verse 3 of the Holy Quran. May I give you the whole translated verse which is "If ye fear shall not Be able to deal justly with the orphans, Marry women of your choice, Two, Three or Four; But if ye fear that ye shall not Be able to deal justly(with them)Then only one or (a captive) That your right hands possess. That will be more suitable, To prevent you from doing injustice.
Islam does not not propogate polygamy. Infact from the text we discourage it by the word "if".
Mary Connor: I'm not sure whether what you claim is a fact of matter about the age, child bearing and so on. But I do agree that if the husband of multiple wives need the state to sponsor his family than he is not qualified to mary more that one in the first place...hence he is not following the guidelines and principles set.
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| the coming colonialism [101 words] | Tarek Alhawa | Apr 17, 2020 15:00 | 258637 | ||
| 3 | more than one wife [268 words] | nadira | Sep 10, 2009 06:45 | 161343 | |
| 5 |  I am itching to grow a beard [245 words] | true believer | Sep 11, 2009 08:32 | 161343 | |
| 3 | Justification of Polygamy? [310 words] | Disagree | Jul 13, 2012 19:09 | 161343 | |
| Islam encourages Chastity and safeguarding [50 words] | Mustafa | May 3, 2015 11:57 | 161343 | ||
| Chastity (none can be expected if you marry four times) [45 words] | Prashant | May 7, 2015 00:29 | 161343 | ||
| 2 | Islam needs a revival [293 words] | Rekha | Jan 2, 2009 15:14 | 146668 | |
| "Islam" needs to find a religion of truth and love towards fellow mankind - Jesus Christ. [348 words] | kman | Jan 3, 2009 17:23 | 146668 | ||
| 2 | To Rekha [116 words] | FFFFF | Feb 25, 2009 01:43 | 146668 | |
| 1 | Islam needs NO revival [86 words] | TruthAloneTruimphs | Mar 7, 2009 05:24 | 146668 | |
| You have a good point [175 words] | Abu Nudnik | Nov 24, 2009 20:20 | 146668 | ||
| Revival in Islam [97 words] | Kamath | Jan 4, 2011 08:32 | 146668 | ||
| 1 | polygyny than what atleast 60% of American men do... [215 words] | kelly | Dec 25, 2008 00:11 | 145830 | |
| 1 | La La land [86 words] | pb | Dec 27, 2008 12:29 | 145830 | |
| 1 | New political streams needed. I demand polygamy for women! [106 words] | Lola | Dec 29, 2008 05:51 | 145830 | |
| polygamy definitely better than cheating [130 words] | hiena | Feb 14, 2009 04:59 | 145830 | ||
| One Final Point [120 words] | orange yonason | Dec 21, 2008 05:20 | 145552 | ||
| 1 | Similarity of Tolerance of Slavery with Tolerance of Polygamy [218 words] | Mishah Pipik | Dec 18, 2008 18:28 | 145383 | |
| 1 | Worldwide Islam [70 words] | Ralph Ekwall | Mar 26, 2009 21:00 | 145383 | |
| polygyny [100 words] | Naheem Malik | Dec 16, 2008 18:15 | 145246 | ||
| naheem-male arrogance is polygamy [85 words] | btilly | Dec 17, 2008 23:07 | 145246 | ||
| Power of Islam [36 words] | Nari | Dec 11, 2008 06:55 | 144892 | ||
| 2 | Polygamist marriages = consanguineous marriages = neurometabolic, nuerogentic, autosomal disorders, etc. [391 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 10, 2008 19:38 | 144862 | |
| nari-fornicating in a god's name [79 words] | btilly` | Dec 12, 2008 21:00 | 144862 | ||
| 1 | See Video of a Polygamous Muslim Man in Australia beating Jounalists when they ask him about his four wives.. [37 words] | Freedom | Dec 7, 2008 13:51 | 144590 | |
| Oh, PRICELESS !!!! [98 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 19:06 | 144590 | ||
| KMAN [75 words] | btilly | Dec 8, 2008 20:08 | 144590 | ||
| You called it!! I agree. [148 words] | kman | Dec 9, 2008 19:25 | 144590 | ||
| "It's None Of Your Business!" -- Mohamed [95 words] | orange yonason | Dec 10, 2008 12:32 | 144590 | ||
| Quoting CNSNews ...Islamic nations against connecting Muslim atricities with "Muslims". [80 words] | kman | Dec 6, 2008 19:54 | 144532 | ||
| 2 | Harems are an inevitable sideshow, a symptom of the real problem [108 words] | Sully | Dec 6, 2008 10:08 | 144506 | |
| There is No god but God and that Muhammad is his Messenger [24 words] | abdul | Jan 5, 2009 18:52 | 144506 | ||
| 1 | reality [56 words] | mariah | Oct 18, 2010 19:19 | 144506 | |
| Harems are better options [27 words] | Syed Kasim | Dec 2, 2008 23:21 | 144327 | ||
| syed hasim [6 words] | btilly | Dec 3, 2008 23:20 | 144327 | ||
| What a silly comment [47 words] | Tim | Dec 5, 2008 13:30 | 144327 | ||
| 1 | Harems - easy way for men to sleep around in "legal" fashion. [90 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:33 | 144327 | |
| KMAN-it's called "shacking up" [10 words] | btilly | Dec 7, 2008 16:19 | 144327 | ||
| Yeah, truth - that tickles my sense of humor ...good! [5 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 18:47 | 144327 | ||
| Better for who? [65 words] | Don | Dec 8, 2008 08:08 | 144327 | ||
| Read Between the Lines [14 words] | cynic2 | Dec 8, 2008 09:38 | 144327 | ||
| Re: Harems are better options [60 words] | Del Phantom | Dec 21, 2008 11:51 | 144327 | ||
| Harems =Brothels [80 words] | Arlinda | Dec 22, 2008 06:41 | 144327 | ||
| 1 | Islam and multiple wives [142 words] | Dan Barnes | May 9, 2009 05:02 | 144327 | |
| Polygamy is the life [72 words] | Abu Hazir | Nov 30, 2008 18:53 | 144183 | ||
| 1 | 13 year old wives are illegal in NZ [319 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Dec 1, 2008 20:17 | 144183 | |
| abu hazir the greedy [30 words] | btilly | Dec 1, 2008 20:48 | 144183 | ||
| Polygamy is the life [12 words] | mo | Dec 3, 2008 17:12 | 144183 | ||
| 1 | Abu a 'troll' ??? Could be, I hope so, but would not surprise me in the least if he were not. [126 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Dec 4, 2008 03:27 | 144183 | |
| 2 | Lust & Mind Control [144 words] | Rian | Dec 5, 2008 15:25 | 144183 | |
| I get here late, the others have all the fun with you [48 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:42 | 144183 | ||
| 1 | In Kuwait you can tell... [172 words] | Don | Dec 8, 2008 08:20 | 144183 | |
| 1 | As Winston Churchill said of Islam . . . [202 words] | orange yonason | Nov 30, 2008 18:35 | 144181 | |
| You forgot Israel [86 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | yuval Brandsteter MD | Dec 1, 2008 16:36 | 144181 | ||
| You are right. [25 words] | Ynnatchkah | Dec 2, 2008 15:11 | 144181 | ||
| 1 | I think I've answered your question numerous times... [40 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:52 | 144181 | |
| And, also, amongst the wisest. [115 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:59 | 144181 | ||
| West's policy = present a glass jaw [312 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Dec 6, 2008 22:22 | 144181 | ||
| @kman [33 words] | orange yonason | Dec 6, 2008 22:59 | 144181 | ||
| Excellent - no less than Churchil himself - whew! [78 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 18:34 | 144181 | ||
| You are correct ... [104 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 18:45 | 144181 | ||
| Correction [16 words] | orange yonason | Dec 8, 2008 01:50 | 144181 | ||
| kman - check who my first post was directed to again [74 words] | orange yonason | Dec 8, 2008 22:36 | 144181 | ||
| 1 | Unions non-traditional in the US [189 words] | John Blakemore | Nov 30, 2008 11:58 | 144165 | |
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| The slippery slope [342 words] | kazander | Nov 30, 2008 18:12 | 144142 | ||
| Q for Mr Pipes and Mr Herz: Doesn't our Bible approve Polygamy? [93 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Morris Graham | Dec 1, 2008 11:11 | 144142 | ||
| 1 | I agree with you in part Kazander [77 words] | Sully | Dec 5, 2008 00:48 | 144142 | |
| Morris Graham, traditions of men [237 words] | Infidel | Dec 8, 2008 22:32 | 144142 | ||
| for Morris Graham on Biblical polygamy, [296 words] | Peter Herz | Dec 9, 2008 10:41 | 144142 | ||
| Examples of monogamy in the Bible [92 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 11, 2008 22:00 | 144142 | ||
| Polygamy is legal in Canada [27 words] | Hazem | Mar 30, 2009 09:58 | 144142 | ||
| 1 | Third World Sharia Law is poisoning Western Civilizaton [261 words] | Ron Kilmartin | Nov 29, 2008 18:54 | 144118 | |
| on topic web radio [32 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 29, 2008 04:51 | 144071 | ||
| 1 | WE ARE ALL HEADING TOWARD SLOW DEFEAT and DEATH UNDER ISLAM! [60 words] | TTS | Nov 28, 2008 22:30 | 144061 | |
| 1 | WAR OR ASSIMILATION [125 words] | PhiL | Nov 30, 2008 16:10 | 144061 | |
| 1 | Incrementalism [41 words] | jennifer solis | Nov 28, 2008 16:36 | 144039 | |
| Trouble and strife [445 words] | Rebecca Moulds | Nov 28, 2008 13:56 | 144027 | ||
| WHICH IS BETTER? [185 words] | Rawi | Nov 28, 2008 11:08 | 144019 | ||
| 1 | Something is missing. [269 words] | Mary Connor | Nov 29, 2008 07:03 | 144019 | |
| Rawi, disobeys the Qur'an [76 words] | Infidel | Nov 29, 2008 12:17 | 144019 | ||
 WHICH IS BETTER? [167 words] | Rawi | Nov 29, 2008 23:23 | 144019 | ||
| Rawi flawed figures [183 words] | Jorge | Nov 30, 2008 19:05 | 144019 | ||
| 1 | poly-anything... sure - but, you got to pay for it! [187 words] | Karl | Dec 2, 2008 05:39 | 144019 | |
| Westerners welcome harems [132 words] | kim segar | Nov 28, 2008 09:16 | 144012 | ||
| What's wrong with polygamy? [86 words] | kazander | Nov 27, 2008 16:25 | 143963 | ||
| hear hear [49 words] | Ari Zade | Nov 28, 2008 00:00 | 143963 | ||
| kazander [58 words] | btilly | Nov 28, 2008 03:57 | 143963 | ||
| 1 | Two Things Wrong With Polygamy [80 words] | AnneM | Nov 28, 2008 07:30 | 143963 | |
| 1 | There are 57 Islamic States...... "What's wrong with polygamy?" -- kazander [61 words] | Krista | Nov 28, 2008 09:45 | 143963 | |
| Polygamy [45 words] | Carla Bauer | Nov 28, 2008 13:11 | 143963 | ||
| AnneM [180 words] | kazander | Nov 28, 2008 19:30 | 143963 | ||
| Krista and Carla [191 words] | kazander | Nov 28, 2008 19:42 | 143963 | ||
| 1 | polygamy - great idea for fat egos [316 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 28, 2008 21:13 | 143963 | |
| not possible. [126 words] | havas | Nov 29, 2008 14:31 | 143963 | ||
| What is wrong ? [139 words] | Rian | Nov 29, 2008 14:46 | 143963 | ||
| Morals, values, ethics [35 words] | Krista | Nov 29, 2008 21:05 | 143963 | ||
| Huh? [18 words] | kazander | Nov 30, 2008 03:40 | 143963 | ||
| Greater Sucess Was Realized By The West Because The Bible-Based Monogamy Marriage Made It Possible [45 words] | AnneM | Nov 30, 2008 16:17 | 143963 | ||
| Rebecca and AnneM: Then why the Polygamist Ranch wives were happy ? [55 words] | Vanessa Douglas | Dec 1, 2008 11:26 | 143963 | ||
| Carla: Two Huge Problems in a Reverse Situation. [91 words] | Ibn Masud | Dec 1, 2008 17:21 | 143963 | ||
| The loosening of any moral base will lead to many ultimate debaucheries ... [713 words] | kman | Dec 6, 2008 01:26 | 143963 | ||
| success and west...... poles apart. :) [58 words] | ayatul islam | Dec 6, 2008 02:52 | 143963 | ||
| There Is One Bride That Jesus Has, It Is The Christian Church [56 words] | AnneM | Dec 9, 2008 09:38 | 143963 | ||
| ari zade-ONE man one woman is fair [104 words] | btilly | Dec 18, 2008 12:45 | 143963 | ||
| The Essence of Our Culture [45 words] | Charlie | Nov 27, 2008 13:54 | 143959 | ||
| Westerners regarding Harems [276 words] | Margaret Hood | Nov 27, 2008 12:18 | 143953 | ||
| Thank you D. Pipes. [43 words] | kman | Nov 27, 2008 02:21 | 143914 | ||
| Sharia does not REQUIRE polygamy, and we should not tolerate it. [67 words] | Norm Green | Nov 27, 2008 01:57 | 143909 | ||
| Islam, polygamy,sharia law [170 words] | Laurie | Nov 28, 2008 06:30 | 143909 | ||
| norm green aka muhammad [109 words] | btilly | Nov 29, 2008 08:16 | 143909 | ||
| Norm Green, polygamy acceptable in Qur'an [59 words] | Infidel | Dec 4, 2008 15:15 | 143909 | ||
| No polygamy neede in the Wester world [37 words] | Norm Green | Dec 5, 2008 20:23 | 143909 | ||
| Polygamy Canada [161 words] | Rogerthat | Feb 16, 2009 10:15 | 143909 | ||
| 1 | .... guess who strikes again ? [169 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 26, 2008 22:56 | 143903 | |
| Religion of Peace strikes again and again and again... [287 words] | Jaladhi | Nov 28, 2008 22:14 | 143903 | ||
| ....deranged is incorrect [874 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 30, 2008 05:00 | 143903 | ||
| In India , Deputy CM of Haryana State converted to Islam inorder to take second wife.. [438 words] | Indian | Dec 7, 2008 13:35 | 143903 | ||
| 4 | Polygamy in Spain [70 words] | Gudrun Eussner | Nov 26, 2008 22:17 | 143899 |
| Polygamy [54 words] | Zentrist | Dec 11, 2008 22:00 | 143899 | ||
| So what? [27 words] | Edward | Jan 23, 2009 11:24 | 143899 | ||
| 1 | Polygamy is better than same sex marriage [66 words] | John | Sep 18, 2009 07:42 | 143899 | |
| What Yeshua says, and what man-made religions say, are at odds. [171 words] | gordon weare | Sep 27, 2009 15:02 | 143899 | ||
| 1 | Spanish policemen starting incidents in protest march [61 words] | Javier | Jun 17, 2011 10:02 | 143899 | |
| 1 | Harems [106 words] | Ayasha | Nov 26, 2008 21:41 | 143896 | |
| 1 | Polygamy [114 words] | joe six-pack | Nov 26, 2008 21:38 | 143895 | |
| polygamy? [10 words] | B. Soetoro | Nov 26, 2008 19:49 | 143893 | ||
| post name of judge [36 words] | kaw | Nov 26, 2008 16:27 | 143886 | ||
| post name of judge [66 words] | Chancy | Apr 2, 2009 09:44 | 143886 | ||
| Mormons aren't polygamists [158 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Jason Alder | Nov 26, 2008 15:53 | 143883 | ||
| Mormons & polygamy [92 words] | pigpen | Nov 26, 2008 19:46 | 143883 | ||
| Canda already allows polygamy [35 words] | Terry | Nov 27, 2008 11:15 | 143883 | ||
| Mormons & Polygamy [271 words] | Jason Alder | Nov 28, 2008 10:10 | 143883 | ||
| Mormons WERE polygamists, Jason [62 words] | jennifer solis | Nov 28, 2008 16:52 | 143883 | ||
| Joseph Smith was a polygamist with 30 wives [96 words] | btilly | Dec 21, 2008 12:00 | 143883 | ||
| The Mormon Church and Racism [546 words] | Jason Alder | Dec 22, 2008 13:59 | 143883 | ||
| 1 | Feminists mute [59 words] | Darryl | Nov 26, 2008 15:35 | 143881 | |
| Why? [37 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Nov 26, 2008 14:29 | 143876 | ||
| Why not ? [42 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Nov 27, 2008 11:43 | 143876 | ||
| Anne-Marie Delcambre, don't run away, answer [41 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Nov 27, 2008 17:23 | 143876 | ||
| I am not feminist ! I am a jurist [78 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Nov 29, 2008 05:27 | 143876 | ||
| Anne-Marie Delcambre I knew you are not a feminist [100 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Nov 30, 2008 02:43 | 143876 | ||
| The Feminists are crazy ! [76 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Nov 30, 2008 20:23 | 143876 | ||
| May polygamy rule! [67 words] | Ari Zade | Nov 26, 2008 14:11 | 143875 | ||
| Where does it end Mr. Zade? [260 words] | jkman | Nov 26, 2008 23:15 | 143875 | ||
| Ms Zade, actually [17 words] | Ari Zade | Nov 27, 2008 23:52 | 143875 | ||
| 1 | Moral decadence. [42 words] | M.D'Souza | Nov 28, 2008 17:27 | 143875 | |
| My apologies Ms. Zade [97 words] | jkman | Nov 28, 2008 21:54 | 143875 | ||
| Fascinating: Development or Degeneration? [115 words] | Stuart Teich | Nov 26, 2008 13:30 | 143874 | ||
| Vulnerability to Polygamy [37 words] | Douglas Van Devender | Nov 26, 2008 13:01 | 143873 | ||
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| Asinine judgement [83 words] | Vijay | Nov 26, 2008 11:53 | 143868 | ||
| 1 | The not so subtle influence of Islamic intimidation through ... [243 words] | kman | Nov 27, 2008 02:40 | 143868 | |
| Flabbergasted [106 words] | Aaron Z Snyder | Nov 26, 2008 11:42 | 143867 | ||
| Polygamy in the U.S.? [34 words] | Stephen Merkel | Nov 26, 2008 11:30 | 143866 | ||
| 1 | Unbelievable [168 words] | John Walker | Nov 28, 2008 23:35 | 143866 | |
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| 1 | aneeta-greed is 4 wives [108 words] | btilly` | Dec 1, 2008 20:58 | 143866 | |
| Aneeta Kumar, Bible or Qur'an [48 words] | Infidel | Dec 2, 2008 14:01 | 143866 | ||
| The Bible Gives Preference To One Man, One Woman Marriage [47 words] | AnneM | Dec 2, 2008 16:26 | 143866 | ||
| AnneM Is Correct, ...But... [14 words] | orange yonason | Dec 8, 2008 22:45 | 143866 | ||
| Aneeta Kumar - There Has To Be One Law For Everyone, That's why... [146 words] | orange yonason | Dec 8, 2008 23:20 | 143866 | ||
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| Sorry, Jennifer, But You Are Mistaken [290 words] | orange yonason | Dec 16, 2008 12:29 | 143866 | ||
| reply to Orange Yonason [533 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 18, 2008 00:59 | 143866 | ||
| orange yonason, Torah laws [45 words] | Infidel | Dec 18, 2008 02:11 | 143866 | ||
| Reply To Jennifer Solis [309 words] | orange yonason | Dec 18, 2008 21:58 | 143866 | ||
| To Infidel [10 words] | orange yonason | Dec 18, 2008 22:20 | 143866 | ||
| Why does Deut. 21:15 not use the Qal imperfect of "satam"? [710 words] | jenifer solis | Dec 20, 2008 02:55 | 143866 | ||
| Jennifer Solis, Please Consult A More Knowledgeable Source [318 words] | orange yonason | Dec 21, 2008 00:15 | 143866 | ||
| Jennifer Solis, More Problems With Your Interpretation [396 words] | orange yonason | Dec 21, 2008 03:57 | 143866 | ||
| Agree to Disagree [87 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 22, 2008 00:36 | 143866 | ||
| "Dikduk"? OH, my gosh, you are FUNNY, Orange Yonason [104 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 22, 2008 00:58 | 143866 | ||
| ? ? ? ? [24 words] | orange yonason | Dec 22, 2008 19:20 | 143866 | ||
| Agree To Disagree [198 words] | orange yonason | Dec 22, 2008 19:36 | 143866 | ||
| Islam "agrees to disagree" - temporarily? [391 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 27, 2008 15:45 | 143866 | ||
| Wrong assumption ? [29 words] | true believer | Jan 16, 2009 07:19 | 143866 | ||
| Thats why [20 words] | true believer | Sep 11, 2009 07:14 | 143866 | ||
| Verse 15 correction [49 words] | Correction | Aug 1, 2012 17:22 | 143866 |
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