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Reader comment on item: Westerners Welcome Harems
in response to reader comment: Jennifer Solis, More Problems With Your Interpretation
Submitted by jennifer solis (United States), Dec 22, 2008 at 00:36
Thank you for a most enjoyable discussion, Yonaton.
As we obviously are referenceing two different sources, we will no doubt continue to dissagree.
I admire your devotion to your faith, and I appreciate your answer regarding Deut. 17:17 - and Duet. 17:16 - my response to your comparison of horses/chariots and wives has to do with the Hiphil Imperfect of "multiply" in said verses...but I digress.
Again, thank you for the exchange, but I think the best we'll arrive at is hopefully an agreement to disagree.
Cheers
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| 2 | To Rekha [116 words] | FFFFF | Feb 25, 2009 01:43 | 146668 | |
| 1 | Islam needs NO revival [86 words] | TruthAloneTruimphs | Mar 7, 2009 05:24 | 146668 | |
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| 1 | polygyny than what atleast 60% of American men do... [215 words] | kelly | Dec 25, 2008 00:11 | 145830 | |
| 1 | La La land [86 words] | pb | Dec 27, 2008 12:29 | 145830 | |
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| One Final Point [120 words] | orange yonason | Dec 21, 2008 05:20 | 145552 | ||
| 1 | Similarity of Tolerance of Slavery with Tolerance of Polygamy [218 words] | Mishah Pipik | Dec 18, 2008 18:28 | 145383 | |
| 1 | Worldwide Islam [70 words] | Ralph Ekwall | Mar 26, 2009 21:00 | 145383 | |
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| 2 | Polygamist marriages = consanguineous marriages = neurometabolic, nuerogentic, autosomal disorders, etc. [391 words] | jennifer solis | Dec 10, 2008 19:38 | 144862 | |
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| 1 | See Video of a Polygamous Muslim Man in Australia beating Jounalists when they ask him about his four wives.. [37 words] | Freedom | Dec 7, 2008 13:51 | 144590 | |
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| KMAN [75 words] | btilly | Dec 8, 2008 20:08 | 144590 | ||
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| "It's None Of Your Business!" -- Mohamed [95 words] | orange yonason | Dec 10, 2008 12:32 | 144590 | ||
| Quoting CNSNews ...Islamic nations against connecting Muslim atricities with "Muslims". [80 words] | kman | Dec 6, 2008 19:54 | 144532 | ||
| 2 | Harems are an inevitable sideshow, a symptom of the real problem [108 words] | Sully | Dec 6, 2008 10:08 | 144506 | |
| There is No god but God and that Muhammad is his Messenger [24 words] | abdul | Jan 5, 2009 18:52 | 144506 | ||
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| syed hasim [6 words] | btilly | Dec 3, 2008 23:20 | 144327 | ||
| What a silly comment [47 words] | Tim | Dec 5, 2008 13:30 | 144327 | ||
| 1 | Harems - easy way for men to sleep around in "legal" fashion. [90 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:33 | 144327 | |
| KMAN-it's called "shacking up" [10 words] | btilly | Dec 7, 2008 16:19 | 144327 | ||
| Yeah, truth - that tickles my sense of humor ...good! [5 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 18:47 | 144327 | ||
| Better for who? [65 words] | Don | Dec 8, 2008 08:08 | 144327 | ||
| Read Between the Lines [14 words] | cynic2 | Dec 8, 2008 09:38 | 144327 | ||
| Re: Harems are better options [60 words] | Del Phantom | Dec 21, 2008 11:51 | 144327 | ||
| Harems =Brothels [80 words] | Arlinda | Dec 22, 2008 06:41 | 144327 | ||
| 1 | Islam and multiple wives [142 words] | Dan Barnes | May 9, 2009 05:02 | 144327 | |
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| 1 | 13 year old wives are illegal in NZ [319 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Dec 1, 2008 20:17 | 144183 | |
| abu hazir the greedy [30 words] | btilly | Dec 1, 2008 20:48 | 144183 | ||
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| 1 | Abu a 'troll' ??? Could be, I hope so, but would not surprise me in the least if he were not. [126 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Dec 4, 2008 03:27 | 144183 | |
| 2 | Lust & Mind Control [144 words] | Rian | Dec 5, 2008 15:25 | 144183 | |
| I get here late, the others have all the fun with you [48 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:42 | 144183 | ||
| 1 | In Kuwait you can tell... [172 words] | Don | Dec 8, 2008 08:20 | 144183 | |
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| 1 | I think I've answered your question numerous times... [40 words] | kman | Dec 5, 2008 21:52 | 144181 | |
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| @kman [33 words] | orange yonason | Dec 6, 2008 22:59 | 144181 | ||
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| You are correct ... [104 words] | kman | Dec 7, 2008 18:45 | 144181 | ||
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| kazander [58 words] | btilly | Nov 28, 2008 03:57 | 143963 | ||
| 1 | Two Things Wrong With Polygamy [80 words] | AnneM | Nov 28, 2008 07:30 | 143963 | |
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| AnneM [180 words] | kazander | Nov 28, 2008 19:30 | 143963 | ||
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| Morals, values, ethics [35 words] | Krista | Nov 29, 2008 21:05 | 143963 | ||
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| The loosening of any moral base will lead to many ultimate debaucheries ... [713 words] | kman | Dec 6, 2008 01:26 | 143963 | ||
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| Islam, polygamy,sharia law [170 words] | Laurie | Nov 28, 2008 06:30 | 143909 | ||
| norm green aka muhammad [109 words] | btilly | Nov 29, 2008 08:16 | 143909 | ||
| Norm Green, polygamy acceptable in Qur'an [59 words] | Infidel | Dec 4, 2008 15:15 | 143909 | ||
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| Polygamy Canada [161 words] | Rogerthat | Feb 16, 2009 10:15 | 143909 | ||
| 1 | .... guess who strikes again ? [169 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 26, 2008 22:56 | 143903 | |
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| ....deranged is incorrect [874 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | Nov 30, 2008 05:00 | 143903 | ||
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| 4 | Polygamy in Spain [70 words] | Gudrun Eussner | Nov 26, 2008 22:17 | 143899 |
| Polygamy [54 words] | Zentrist | Dec 11, 2008 22:00 | 143899 | ||
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| 1 | Polygamy is better than same sex marriage [66 words] | John | Sep 18, 2009 07:42 | 143899 | |
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| 1 | Spanish policemen starting incidents in protest march [61 words] | Javier | Jun 17, 2011 10:02 | 143899 | |
| 1 | Harems [106 words] | Ayasha | Nov 26, 2008 21:41 | 143896 | |
| 1 | Polygamy [114 words] | joe six-pack | Nov 26, 2008 21:38 | 143895 | |
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| Why not ? [42 words] | Anne-Marie Delcambre | Nov 27, 2008 11:43 | 143876 | ||
| Anne-Marie Delcambre, don't run away, answer [41 words] | Francesco Mangascià | Nov 27, 2008 17:23 | 143876 | ||
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| Ms Zade, actually [17 words] | Ari Zade | Nov 27, 2008 23:52 | 143875 | ||
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| ? ? ? ? [24 words] | orange yonason | Dec 22, 2008 19:20 | 143866 | ||
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| Thats why [20 words] | true believer | Sep 11, 2009 07:14 | 143866 | ||
| Verse 15 correction [49 words] | Correction | Aug 1, 2012 17:22 | 143866 |
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