The only solution to peace is presented in this talkbalk (Jordan politicians doesn't support our fight against the terrorists)

Submitted by Anders Branderud (Sweden), Jan 7, 2009 at 03:40

Daniel Pipes suggests that Jordan should control "West bank". First of all "West bank" is not a proper name, the area is called [some parts Arab-occupied] Yehuda and Shomron. The land was stolen by the Romans in year 135 C.E., and the land belongs to the Jews.

Daniel Pipes suggests that Jordan should control Yehuda and Shomron. Jordan's king Abdullah disagrees with Israel's operation against the terror organisation Hamas; and want's it to stop. http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/158679

Nearly two dozen Jordan legislators have demanded that Jordan cut off its diplomatic relations with Israel and expel the Israeli ambassador.

This proves that Jordan is NOT a supporter of Israel. Anyone who supports Israel lets Israel defend herself against the terrorists in Hamas. As long as Hamas doesn't do a complete surrender, including destroying its rockets, we are at war with the terrorists in the organisation Hamas.

There is only one solution to the peace and this is the one Paqid Yirmeyahu has presented:

"Arabs cloak their unrelenting goal, the elimination of Israel, in chameleon-like continually-changing disguises to divert attention from their goal of eliminating Israel.

Peace will not be possible until the Western--European and Christian--world comes to grips with a reality about the two religions--both alien and incomprehensible to western (including western "Jewish") minds--that are the core elements of this conflict. Peace between secular "Jews" and secular "Muslims" has always been a perversion of both religions promoted by Liberal-Left Dilettantes (LLDs) whose vision of peace is neutralizing what they perceive to be their stupid religious brethren. The Israeli government cannot make peace between Israelis, the Arab governments are completely split into two fratricidal factions and the world stupidly expects them to make peace?

Iran has emplaced a classic pincer attack via its remote arms, Khizb-Allah and Syria--intent on acquiring Israel's north and Hamas eliminating Israel from the South, while Iran prosecutes a frontal nuclear missile to exterminate us.

The Palistanis are an extension of Islamojihadists of the sort we've seen in Iraq, Afghanistan, Darfur, etc: equal-opportunity haters and murderers of everybody, even each other--which is why no one wants them. If they were peaceful... Reality is they are not and there are no signs they will ever place a life of peace and prosperity above eliminating Israel from their religious zeal to reacquire what they regard as Waqf land like Spain and other "lost Waqf lands." To preserve this fiction, history began in 1948, or the 7th century. Anything before that, of course, exposes the reality: Israel is Arab-occupied Jewish land and, before Muhammed, Arabs were not the torchbearers of the "true" Biblical faith of Abraham, as Muslim displacement theology claims, but worshipped in an idolatrous temple in Mecca that was transformed into today's Ka'ab. These two intractably contradictory religions can coexist only where separation and tolerance are guaranteed to both.

The modern reality is that we Jews and our Arab cousins will have to live in close proximity; and it will be better for all of us if we agree to do it without families suffering constant losses of relatives to bloodshed.

There are only two ways to achieve this:
[a] Israel to become a protectorate of Muslims or
[b] Muslims in the disputed areas to become protectorates of Jews

Arab Israelis live, prosper compared to their brethren, and enjoy the freedom to complain in Israel. Arab merchants drive by my apartment periodically, with loudspeakers blaring their offers, in complete safety. I see Arabs mingling in the crowds shopping at the mall. No one pays any special attention to them any differently than Jews.

Contrast this with lynchings of Jews unfortunate enough to get lost in a Muslim area. The Yemenite and Sepharadi Jews who have lived and suffered abuses under Muslim rule, not even permitted to be men on par with their Arab "superiors," are living testimonials that Muslim claims of tolerance of "dhimmis" are self-deluding lies strictly for western consumption--and LLDs in the west are naive and gullible.

A priori, the only way both parties will ever coexist without bloodshed is when Israel guarantees, and Arabs are willing to agree, for Arab populations in the disputed Arab-occupied lands to become self-governing protectorates, not a Muslim-Arab state launching pad to finally finish-off Israel.

For now, this is unthinkable to Muslims and other Arabs because--regardless of the diversionary excuses given to the western media--the core goal of eliminating Israel would be completely taken off the table. Yet, this is the first, unavoidable, step to an enduring peace. Therefore, the only option is to make the CVN protectorates a fait accompli--extending all rights of self-government and self-determination to them except as specified (e.g., the right to vote in Israeli elections, contain a military or terrorists, etc.).

The same is true of Jerusalem. The only living people for whom Jerusalem was their capital is the Jews... and the only reason this has BECOME important to the Muslims is because they know it is the HEART of Judaism and Jews. Arabs insistence on holding our heart in their hand in just another means of destroying Israel. Muslim and Christian Arabs know that but it's too alien to secular LLDs, including secular Israeli and western "Jewish" LLDs, for them to comprehend.

To be viable, these protectorates would have to thrive and prosper; guaranteeing the better life that Arabs SAY they seek. Israel would have to open up markets, transportation, communication, etc. Peace, alone, would permit that. It would be in Israel's interest to make it thrive and prosper, to the benefit of Arab residents there. Arafats, Hamases and PLOs would no longer be able to keep them miserable and angry to staff their terrorist martyr positions. It is the only hope for a better life of peace and prosperity for Arabs of this area and their children. We've been here for 3,000 years and they're right about one thing: we are here to stay.

Then comes the tough part: Israel must not only never budge from that position, despite terrorist responses, never even giving the impression that there is any "wiggle room" that would continue to fuel their hopes of eventually achieving demographic predominance and political Muslim take-over of "Palestine," eliminating Israel entirely.

Paqid Yirmeyahu
Paqid 16, The Netzarim
Israeli Orthodox Jew (Teimani Baladi Dardai)
Advancing Logic as Halakhic Authority
Welcoming Jews & non-Jews
www.netzarim.co.il
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Comment: Comment: Only One Possible Solution... Someday, Not Yet Addendum

CVN = Concurrent Village Networks. I've been urging a separate solution for the Arab-occupied West Bank since I proposed two separate and distinct Concurrent Village Networks of protectorates (one Jewish and one Arab) for the West Bank to MK Uzi Landau in 1988."

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From Anders Branderud

Geir Toshav, Netzarim (www.netzarim.co.il)

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