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Ever so peaceful sufis--bunch of crap/myth
Reader comment on item: The Limits of Terrorism
in response to reader comment: Muslims Sufis killed? utter non-sense
Submitted by sam (United States), May 18, 2009 at 01:48
Javed,
It is nice to hear your view point.
Please quote references to support your view point.
Sufi's are nothing but something like this...
"after the lion kills and goes away, the foxes/hyenas eat on the left over animal"..
Ofcourse sometimes foxes also hunt for small animals..
Sufis either preceded the violent islam or came after violent islam established itself.
Most of the sufis in pakistan/india were the first level sleeper cells to feed the local information to arab/turkish izlamic thugs...
just read up on what sufis did in punjab in 1946-48...to sikhs/hindus..
they killed possibly millions of them and raped untold number of woman and sold them as sex slaves..or forcibly married them into muslim harem,,,all in the name of muslim god allah...
do sufis reject
'1. Jiziya
2. apostasy ?
3. will fight for jewish people to visit their ansesctral lands in Mecca/Medina ?
4. woman's rights ?
5. religious pluralism in saudi arabia, so someone can build churches/temples ??
what will they support and how are they different than wahabbis in accomadating Christians/Hindus/zoroastrians ??
dont tell me , they have a peaceful way to gain new converts.. which is nothing but a trojan horse strategy
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| Terrorism works on an economic level too [112 words] | Stas | Jun 4, 2012 06:13 | 196022 | ||
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| 1 | Terrorism [275 words] | dev | May 15, 2009 14:58 | 155486 | |
| Dev could you [95 words] | Javed | May 17, 2009 16:13 | 155486 | ||
| javed [53 words] | btilly | May 18, 2009 05:29 | 155486 | ||
| Tell us about peacock throne ? [60 words] | Sam | May 18, 2009 13:41 | 155486 | ||
| Ok and the peacock thing [108 words] | javed | May 19, 2009 00:29 | 155486 | ||
| typical islamic style--never answer a direct question [64 words] | Sam | May 20, 2009 01:19 | 155486 | ||
| what is your definition of pacifism [130 words] | Sam | May 20, 2009 01:30 | 155486 | ||
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| One issue at a time "Javed". Take the U.S. in Iraq ...simple, Arabs needed someone to do their for them. [210 words] | kman | May 25, 2009 00:23 | 155486 | ||
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| 1 | Ah, the pretender again. Read on for a small sampling of the billions. [1713 words] | kman | Jun 14, 2009 01:37 | 155486 | |
| Dar al Islam [138 words] | elle | Jun 16, 2009 15:53 | 155486 | ||
| List of terrorism [14 words] | elle | Jun 17, 2009 08:02 | 155486 | ||
| There's a ton of info here "elle". [142 words] | kman | Jun 19, 2009 01:06 | 155486 | ||
| I agree, "elle", with your post. [225 words] | kman | Jun 19, 2009 01:26 | 155486 | ||
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| Very well said, Mr. Tovey... [270 words] | kman | May 23, 2009 23:30 | 155132 | ||
| Many have laughed themselves staright into hell, "Javed". [316 words] | kman | May 23, 2009 23:48 | 155132 | ||
| Common Belief in an Uncommon Truth [105 words] | M. Tovey | May 25, 2009 23:04 | 155132 | ||
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| 2 | As with all parasites & cancers, Islam will have destroyed itself before long 500 years,"Krish". [298 words] | kman | May 12, 2009 19:29 | 155062 | |
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| 1 | living in the past [177 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | May 6, 2009 22:19 | 155009 | |
| Why? It's the Quran and Muhammad's Teachings [171 words] | TruthWFree | May 7, 2009 11:23 | 155009 | ||
| You are not informed... [158 words] | Javed | May 8, 2009 23:30 | 155009 | ||
| I'll give you this falafel - if you give me your ..... [911 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | May 10, 2009 01:30 | 155009 | ||
| Yes Sufi's are so peaceful---just killed hundreds of thousands of Sikhs/Hindus [163 words] | Sam | May 11, 2009 17:24 | 155009 | ||
| in reply to Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan [97 words] | Javed | May 11, 2009 23:42 | 155009 | ||
| There is another source for America's return to economic health. [57 words] | kman | May 12, 2009 19:36 | 155009 | ||
| You say Chris [34 words] | Javed | May 13, 2009 02:03 | 155009 | ||
| objective fact - Islamic societies in general are backward [1021 words] | the Grand Infidel of Kaffiristan | May 13, 2009 06:45 | 155009 | ||
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| Depends on your political view [110 words] | javed | May 14, 2009 01:16 | 155009 | ||
| You sound ill-informed [17 words] | javed | May 14, 2009 01:24 | 155009 | ||
| Muslims Sufis killed? utter non-sense [79 words] | javed | May 14, 2009 23:06 | 155009 | ||
| "Javed", you will find it difficult to get responses to your messages if you don't address them to me. [74 words] | kman | May 17, 2009 01:02 | 155009 | ||
| 1 | javed, sufis are not peaceful, they are just as of killers like sunnis, shias, and other followers of Islam!!! [289 words] | Jaladhi | May 17, 2009 16:43 | 155009 | |
| 2 |  Ever so peaceful sufis--bunch of crap/myth [187 words] | sam | May 18, 2009 01:48 | 155009 | |
| Where do you read history from ? [191 words] | sam | May 18, 2009 02:01 | 155009 | ||
| I thinking i am getting responses [39 words] | javed | May 19, 2009 00:34 | 155009 | ||
| Hindus resisted and survived [107 words] | B.N.Gururaj | May 20, 2009 10:48 | 155009 | ||
| Engage the Word of Jesus Christ ... [107 words] | kman | May 23, 2009 23:15 | 155009 | ||
| Simplistic thinking, "Javed". [47 words] | kman | May 25, 2009 00:27 | 155009 | ||
| Read Ahmed Rashid [55 words] | Kman | May 28, 2009 20:36 | 155009 | ||
| Hard to say who I'm addressing as you used my id as yours...Who's confused? [464 words] | kman | Jun 3, 2009 20:40 | 155009 | ||
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| which version of Bible have u read for 40 years [32 words] | javed | May 14, 2009 22:20 | 154923 | ||
| You don't address your comment towards anyone in particular ...? [74 words] | kman | May 17, 2009 00:56 | 154923 | ||
| Hey Man you flip through your own history [181 words] | Kam | May 17, 2009 22:48 | 154923 | ||
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