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West Bank Arabs face only 2 real options: (a) Hamas rule , (b) Jordanian rule
Reader comment on item: A Rapid and Harsh Turn against Israel
Submitted by G Marcus (United States), Jun 3, 2009 at 22:36
Fatah option is State Dept fiction and doesn't exist in reality.
Only power keeping Fatah alive and preventing WB from becoming another Gaza under Hamas is Israeli army.
Solutions:
- Gaza: Under linkage to Egypt, turned into Dubai-like indl/comml hub on East Med.
- WB: Partially federated with Jordan; safeguarding security & settlements for Israel, demographics for Arabs, holy sites for both.
2-State Plan doesn't make sense only if you think its aim is Peace. It makes a lot of sense if you realize its aim is further progress in the staged plan to destroy Israel.
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