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Reader comment on item: Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan
Submitted by Ilbert Phillips (United States), Aug 16, 2010 at 12:18
The issue is not whether Muslims are allowed to worship in this country. They are. The issue is whether this Mosque supported by these people ought to open this close to ground zero. The leader is an Islamist, with whom we are at war. The leaders of this country are so cluless, it is scary.
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| 5 | Daisy Khan watch and I'm not kidding you: Falafel is Muslim food! I can see the Copts of Egypt saying is she out of her mind? [366 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 25, 2010 15:27 | 180464 | |
 Its falafel time [58 words] | Simon | Nov 26, 2010 18:24 | 180464 | ||
| 1 | Falafel revisited [138 words] | dhimmi no more | Nov 28, 2010 08:27 | 180464 | |
| Thanks dhimmi.... [139 words] | Simon | Nov 29, 2010 01:18 | 180464 | ||
| 2 | Arabic and Syriac [153 words] | dhimmi no more | Dec 1, 2010 07:14 | 180464 | |
| 2 | what happened??? [66 words] | mariah | Nov 14, 2010 15:02 | 180141 | |
| 1 | Alaskan Muslims officially call their First Mosque (Masjid) "The Islamic Community Center Anchorage Alaska" [56 words] | scott | Oct 23, 2010 23:20 | 179586 | |
| 5 | I am offended by islam, I am offended by muslims. [106 words] | Solidspine | Oct 17, 2010 15:25 | 179358 | |
| 2 | Daisy Khan watch and the theater of the absurd [177 words] | dhimmi no more | Oct 5, 2010 07:09 | 178977 | |
| 1 | Daisy Khan watch and Marie Antoinette [143 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 30, 2010 07:29 | 178826 | |
| 1 | Right Response To Mosque [28 words] | Clifford Ishii | Sep 18, 2010 22:56 | 178400 | |
| Reflections of an Islamic Ctr. NYC [431 words] | Vigilant | Sep 14, 2010 10:32 | 178243 | ||
| 3 | Still Fighting September 11, 2001 - the Never Ending Day [427 words] | M. Tovey | Sep 13, 2010 15:55 | 178214 | |
| Fiasco! [479 words] | Kanaan | Sep 13, 2010 13:23 | 178204 | ||
| I don't object to the proposed mosque near the former World Trade Center [285 words] | Avi Morris | Sep 12, 2010 22:09 | 178157 | ||
| 1 | sheer provocation [115 words] | debora derlagen | Sep 11, 2010 08:50 | 178051 | |
| 3 | Defending fundamental American rights and values [214 words] | There is NO Santa Claus | Sep 10, 2010 11:32 | 177998 | |
| 2 | lack of definitions from moderate Muslims belie any "Moderate Islam" [662 words] | Charles Stevens | Sep 8, 2010 22:44 | 177919 | |
| 1 | Moslems' behavior hurts them [388 words] | NuritG | Sep 8, 2010 19:54 | 177907 | |
| mosque at WTC [52 words] | brad bucher | Sep 8, 2010 08:35 | 177862 | ||
| Idea Of The Ground Zero Troublesome Mosque Does Uphold An American Principle We See [179 words] | D.K. Milgrim-Heath | Sep 10, 2010 13:17 | 177862 | ||
| 1 | Americans wake up....... [127 words] | Russell Gaddin | Sep 7, 2010 12:18 | 177793 | |
| Something good out of this mess. [229 words] | batya dagan | Sep 7, 2010 00:04 | 177760 | ||
| 2 | What about St. Nicholas Greek Orthodox Church? [79 words] | Peter Herz | Sep 4, 2010 22:07 | 177691 | |
| The Greek Orthodox Church [76 words] | There is NO Santa Claus | Sep 10, 2010 11:38 | 177691 | ||
| 2 | Totally Offbase [201 words] | ProudMuslimAmerican | Sep 4, 2010 19:52 | 177684 | |
| to proudmuslimamerican [79 words] | AS | Feb 16, 2011 05:30 | 177684 | ||
| 2 | Daisy Khan watch and the on being a slum landlord and other sordid matters [545 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 4, 2010 07:29 | 177670 | |
| 1 | Exposure Of The Real Crooked Ones At Last [171 words] | D.K.Milgrim-Heath | Sep 5, 2010 22:50 | 177670 | |
| Ms Con I mean Khan exposed [23 words] | dhimmi no more | Apr 14, 2011 06:21 | 177670 | ||
| Ground Zero [56 words] | Simonae | Sep 2, 2010 13:39 | 177598 | ||
| Personal Reflections Of Lower Manhattan-9/11 Revisted 2010 [271 words] | D.K.Milgrim-Heath | Sep 12, 2010 12:21 | 177598 | ||
| 4 | the silent terror [342 words] | vladutz | Sep 1, 2010 19:02 | 177566 | |
| 2 | Ground 0 mosque [1004 words] | AS | Sep 1, 2010 00:38 | 177521 | |
| 1 | Victory mosques built by Muslims all over invaded lands since seventh centuru!!! Ground Zero mosque won't be the last!!! [118 words] | Jaladhi | Sep 3, 2010 15:19 | 177521 | |
| I would have liked a hyperlink for the fourth bullet [31 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | Ames | Aug 31, 2010 02:17 | 177486 | ||
| Not legal [54 words] | meleager | Aug 30, 2010 19:46 | 177475 | ||
| 2 | Gathering storm... [147 words] | donvan | Aug 28, 2010 10:18 | 177397 | |
| 1 | Islam/Muslims at war with us!!! [94 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 29, 2010 21:15 | 177397 | |
| A possible solution [226 words] | David S | Aug 28, 2010 02:40 | 177386 | ||
| Great idea! Zero chance of it happening though... [140 words] | sara | Sep 19, 2010 17:46 | 177386 | ||
| 3 | More about Islam and the construction of a mosque inthe Groud Zero [2056 words] | Manu Rodríguez | Aug 27, 2010 01:34 | 177342 | |
| Why let the facts get in the way [46 words] | Amin Riaz | Sep 3, 2010 10:42 | 177342 | ||
| A rather glaring fact [89 words] | Mr Sanity | Nov 10, 2010 06:08 | 177342 | ||
| Sadly some people do not see this as a victory mosque, for that is what it is. [168 words] | Phil Greend | Aug 26, 2010 16:30 | 177313 | ||
| 1 | A Mosque is a victory mosque when built over hallowed grounds of the invaded people!!! [161 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 26, 2010 21:23 | 177313 | |
| 9 | Some more info on Islam [634 words] | AS | Aug 26, 2010 07:14 | 177299 | |
| 1 | Good Info on Islam!!! [23 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 26, 2010 21:29 | 177299 | |
| 1 | Economy by 2017 is gone [29 words] | firozali A. Mulla DBA | Aug 27, 2010 21:42 | 177299 | |
| 7 | Imam Rauf is connected to Muslim Brotherhood and IIIT- The Wahabbi corridor in VA [114 words] | sara | Aug 25, 2010 18:43 | 177276 | |
| why? [100 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | helen | Aug 25, 2010 15:51 | 177272 | ||
| 2 | Islam in denial [45 words] | Sam the heretic | Aug 24, 2010 23:03 | 177241 | |
| 2 | GET OVER IT! [22 words] | burt kwouk | Aug 24, 2010 15:05 | 177206 | |
| 1 | Dear Burt... [95 words] | donvan | Aug 30, 2010 21:29 | 177206 | |
| 1 | Legal can still be offensive [116 words] | Jeff | Aug 24, 2010 14:51 | 177204 | |
| 2 | The Victory Mosque [42 words] | donvan | Aug 24, 2010 06:55 | 177190 | |
| 1 | La construcción de una mezquita en la Zona Cero [698 words] | Manu Rodríguez | Aug 23, 2010 12:07 | 177148 | |
| 2 | Razzin' Reuters [911 words] | Denis Ahearn | Aug 23, 2010 07:29 | 177130 | |
| Terrorist ties [28 words] | Trestin Meacham | Aug 23, 2010 06:49 | 177129 | ||
| Fight to save the Netherlands from future Dutch dictator... [419 words] w/response from Daniel Pipes | eslaporte | Aug 22, 2010 13:44 | 177096 | ||
| 2 | Ground zero mosque [16 words] | M.A.SASTRY | Aug 22, 2010 01:53 | 177072 | |
| SHARIA INDEX [80 words] | Susan | Aug 21, 2010 16:56 | 177050 | ||
| 6 | Thank you Dr Pipes [266 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 20, 2010 19:01 | 177026 | |
| 2 | Cordoba thingy [65 words] | Rob Ala kaffir | Aug 20, 2010 12:04 | 177014 | |
| 2 | Garnering Respect [31 words] | Yuval Brandstetter MD | Aug 20, 2010 08:54 | 177008 | |
| 1 | By way of perspective [6 words] | Dave Bones | Aug 19, 2010 20:02 | 176996 | |
| 1 | Birds of a Feather? [93 words] | Jules Posten | Aug 19, 2010 19:43 | 176994 | |
| 2 | The mosque is a symbol of victory. ..just like the mosque on the Temple Mount. [115 words] | Phil Greend | Aug 19, 2010 01:06 | 176949 | |
| 3 | Muslims have erected vicory mosques in all the invaded countries - India, israel, Turkey, Spain...!! And now in USA!!! [275 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 24, 2010 20:23 | 176949 | |
| 1 | So Dear World Hear Our Battle Cry [133 words] | D.K. Milgrim-Heath | Aug 30, 2010 20:50 | 176949 | |
| Powerful... [22 words] | Jaladhi | Sep 1, 2010 19:10 | 176949 | ||
| Don't Lose Your Freedoms Them In The First Place Yes-Powerfully I do write-thank you so much Jaladhi! [133 words] | D.K.Milgrim-Heath | Sep 3, 2010 23:01 | 176949 | ||
| History repeats itself [33 words] | gloria linda | Jan 3, 2013 12:32 | 176949 | ||
| 3 | Ground Zero Mosque - A Poke in the eye of every American [134 words] | Victor Lipshutz | Aug 19, 2010 00:11 | 176945 | |
| 1 | Mosque near ground zero [88 words] | ed margulies | Aug 18, 2010 22:55 | 176943 | |
| dubious background [13 words] | elisheba | Aug 18, 2010 20:15 | 176936 | ||
| freedom of religions [30 words] | b soetoro | Aug 18, 2010 18:04 | 176923 | ||
| Hypocrisy thy name is Islam!!! [50 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 22, 2010 20:28 | 176923 | ||
| Whats going on is evolutional [48 words] | Arilf Jayish al Amiriki | Aug 18, 2010 16:12 | 176912 | ||
| You have a good nose Dr Pipes [22 words] | NCH | Aug 18, 2010 11:24 | 176893 | ||
| 3 | Reflections On a Killing Machine [337 words] | Arlinda DeAngelis | Aug 18, 2010 09:26 | 176890 | |
| 4 | It is Islamist's hobby to make their buildings around places sacred to other religions [237 words] | Rajeev | Aug 17, 2010 23:18 | 176875 | |
| 1 | Failure to learn from history of Muslims!!! [479 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 25, 2010 20:24 | 176875 | |
| the protest indicates the public wants another strategy towards the islamists [84 words] | myth | Aug 17, 2010 20:09 | 176859 | ||
| Freedom Of Religion [41 words] | Clifford Ishii | Aug 17, 2010 19:05 | 176852 | ||
| Dubious Associations? You mean, like Reverend Wright? [148 words] | David Koral | Aug 17, 2010 18:15 | 176848 | ||
| Heads Still in the Sand [104 words] | Jules Posten | Aug 17, 2010 14:29 | 176835 | ||
| 2 | Failure to learn from history of Muslims!!! [187 words] | Jaladhi | Aug 22, 2010 20:58 | 176835 | |
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan. Islam always demands Respect. Now Show respect for Others! [66 words] | Debbie | Aug 17, 2010 11:28 | 176830 | |
| 1 | We have nothing to fear. Openness will destroy Islamism [45 words] | Jeremy Kareken | Aug 17, 2010 11:13 | 176828 | |
| 4 | Shades of Tariq Ramadan [87 words] | David | Aug 17, 2010 10:39 | 176825 | |
| 2 | The hypocrite Tariq Ramadan and and the so called Sheikh Feisal Abdul Rauf have much in common [629 words] | dhimmi no more | Sep 4, 2010 08:06 | 176825 | |
| 5 | Israel must win /Barack Obama [66 words] | Dr Gianpaolo Bernasconi | Aug 17, 2010 04:51 | 176801 | |
| 1 | Islam [182 words] | David H. Partington | Aug 17, 2010 03:31 | 176800 | |
| Ground Zero Mosque [27 words] | Juggler | Aug 17, 2010 03:05 | 176799 | ||
| 1 | Cordoba House [67 words] | Shirl in Oz | Aug 17, 2010 02:09 | 176797 | |
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [109 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 17, 2010 02:02 | 176796 | |
| 2 | Contradictions in Curmally's threat [91 words] | Vijay | Aug 18, 2010 20:01 | 176796 | |
| 3 | Where is Allah when you need him [516 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 21, 2010 18:16 | 176796 | |
| Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [34 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 21, 2010 22:21 | 176796 | ||
| Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [118 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 21, 2010 22:35 | 176796 | ||
| 2 | Our dear Fazal and the floods in Pakistan and he really has no answer [90 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 22, 2010 17:43 | 176796 | |
| 2 | Respect for other faiths [61 words] | Rajeev | Aug 22, 2010 23:35 | 176796 | |
| 1 | lack of proportion [142 words] | Vijay | Aug 23, 2010 16:05 | 176796 | |
| Asymmetrical warfare [127 words] | Vijay | Aug 23, 2010 17:49 | 176796 | ||
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [697 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 24, 2010 00:44 | 176796 | |
| Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [72 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 24, 2010 03:24 | 176796 | ||
| 1 | Where is Allah when you need him part deux [347 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 24, 2010 07:07 | 176796 | |
| Reply to Curmally [546 words] | Vijay | Aug 24, 2010 21:15 | 176796 | ||
| 3 | Two sides to the picture [667 words] | Jeff | Aug 25, 2010 15:19 | 176796 | |
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [265 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 26, 2010 00:12 | 176796 | |
| Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [425 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 26, 2010 00:44 | 176796 | ||
| Don't look now, Fazal [6 words] | Jeff | Aug 27, 2010 09:31 | 176796 | ||
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [318 words] | Fazal Habib Curmally | Aug 28, 2010 00:22 | 176796 | |
| 2 | Where is Allah when you need him part trois [52 words] | dhimmi no more | Aug 28, 2010 09:13 | 176796 | |
| Respect and Exceptional [178 words] | Jay1 | Aug 16, 2010 22:44 | 176791 | ||
| Religious freedom or religious superiority? [108 words] | Rebecca Moulds | Aug 16, 2010 21:23 | 176784 | ||
| 1 | Every legal right ....? [190 words] | Ron Thompson | Aug 16, 2010 20:20 | 176783 | |
| Why, Why Here? [41 words] | Nate Rosenblatt | Aug 16, 2010 20:02 | 176782 | ||
| Agreed! [107 words] | Nora | Aug 16, 2010 19:41 | 176780 | ||
| Imam Faisal Rauf [118 words] | Nora | Aug 18, 2010 07:06 | 176780 | ||
| Imam Faisal Rauf [190 words] | A.K Basak | Sep 18, 2010 17:35 | 176780 | ||
| 1 | has bloomberg gone mad [196 words] | jerome henen | Aug 16, 2010 19:30 | 176778 | |
| Why Islam is Allowed to Demonstrate Its Disregard for the American Way [314 words] | M. Tovey | Aug 16, 2010 19:19 | 176775 | ||
| what Obama does not seem to understand, what democracy is about [84 words] | myth | Aug 16, 2010 19:10 | 176774 | ||
| The American majority is the only hero here. [164 words] | batya dagan | Aug 16, 2010 18:48 | 176773 | ||
| "I'd rather focus, say, on Islamist penetration of security services." .... + 9 more items, by Geert Wilders [18 words] | Rochelle Michaels | Aug 16, 2010 18:11 | 176771 | ||
| 3 | Islamists celebration of the 9-11-2001 attack [151 words] | Ralph C. Whaley MD | Aug 16, 2010 17:47 | 176769 | |
| 4 | Daniel Pipes RIGHT AGAIN! Islamic triumphalism is rampant . [371 words] | Carmen Waggoner | Aug 16, 2010 17:01 | 176768 | |
| 1 | Mosques: Military Outposts behind prayer [53 words] | JenT | Aug 16, 2010 16:37 | 176767 | |
| 1 | Simple solution [310 words] | Bob Sullivan | Aug 16, 2010 16:05 | 176765 | |
| re the mosque on holy ground [53 words] | edith m. cord | Aug 16, 2010 15:42 | 176764 | ||
| 1 | What is a "relogion" [163 words] | martin kessler | Aug 16, 2010 15:33 | 176763 | |
| 1 | Is Obama Muslim? [222 words] | firozali A. Mulla DBA | Aug 26, 2010 01:40 | 176763 | |
| islamic center in New York [75 words] | concerned | Aug 16, 2010 15:24 | 176762 | ||
| All for One [95 words] | John B | Aug 17, 2010 07:10 | 176762 | ||
| 1 | Freedoms For All and Nothing Built On Hollow Ground [265 words] | D.K.Milgrim-Heath | Aug 16, 2010 15:22 | 176761 | |
| 6 | Good-bye Mr. Bloomberg [209 words] | Maurice Leon | Aug 16, 2010 15:15 | 176760 | |
| Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan. Goodbye Mr. Bloomberg- Idiots show lack of respect. response to Maurice Leon [245 words] | Anne-USA | Aug 17, 2010 11:03 | 176760 | ||
| Fair, Non-hysterical, and Helpful [86 words] | john w mcginley | Aug 16, 2010 14:31 | 176759 | ||
| references? [370 words] | gingersnap | Aug 16, 2010 21:27 | 176759 | ||
| 1 | A mosque at Ground Zero [54 words] | Russell Gaddin | Aug 16, 2010 13:43 | 176758 | |
| 1 | Legal? Yes. Sensitive? No. [162 words] | Vazir Mukhtar | Aug 16, 2010 13:29 | 176757 | |
| No Golden Rule in the Qur'an [173 words] | Kim Bruce | Aug 16, 2010 22:34 | 176757 | ||
| 1 | Reflections on an Islamic Center in Lower Manhattan [309 words] | Kim Bruce | Aug 16, 2010 13:26 | 176756 | |
| Marginalizing the moderates and proving al Qaeda right [144 words] | David L | Aug 16, 2010 13:23 | 176755 | ||
| Understanding Islam [474 words] | gingersnap | Aug 16, 2010 22:18 | 176755 | ||
| Reply to David L. re. moderate Muslims [133 words] | Kim Bruce | Aug 16, 2010 22:56 | 176755 | ||
| disagree...? [200 words] | David L | Aug 17, 2010 20:31 | 176755 | ||
| The Wrong Question [372 words] | Art M. | Aug 16, 2010 13:19 | 176752 | ||
| The Wrong Question by Art M. [268 words] | Kim Bruce | Aug 16, 2010 23:24 | 176752 | ||
| 1 | the symbolic question: what is the future symbol of religious freedom [146 words] | myth | Aug 16, 2010 13:08 | 176751 | |
| 1 | GZM [117 words] | jhstuart | Aug 16, 2010 12:34 | 176750 | |
| Ground Zero Musoleum [59 words] | Kim Bruce | Aug 16, 2010 23:34 | 176750 | ||
| 6 | Dr. Pipes, I disagree about the Cordoba House - Park 51 [60 words] | Mark Preston | Aug 16, 2010 12:33 | 176749 | |
| 2 | Rights and responsibilities of religious minorities in US and trhe world [794 words] | Rao | Aug 16, 2010 17:51 | 176749 | |
| GZM [47 words] | jhstuart | Aug 16, 2010 19:34 | 176749 | ||
| 3 | What are the real aims? [273 words] | Vinodgupt | Aug 16, 2010 12:31 | 176748 | |
| 2 |  When Will Our Leaders Get It [55 words] | Ilbert Phillips | Aug 16, 2010 12:18 | 176746 | |
| reflection on an islamic center in lower manhattan [21 words] | bile | Aug 19, 2010 09:44 | 176746 | ||
| Religous Freedom [241 words] | Ilbert Phillips | Aug 22, 2010 02:51 | 176746 | ||
| 1 | Obama: Wrong on Mosque Issue [351 words] | Jerrold L. Sobel | Aug 16, 2010 12:15 | 176745 | |
| 1 | Response to "Obama: Wrong on Mosque Issue by Jerrold L. Sobel [155 words] | Ilbert Phillips | Aug 22, 2010 03:01 | 176745 | |
| 3 | Public figures that are speaking out for the First Amendment where the mosque is involved have an ax to grind. [133 words] | PRocky | Aug 16, 2010 12:09 | 176744 | |
| yes! [2 words] | Nora | Aug 16, 2010 19:47 | 176744 |
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