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Wll to fight, fight jointly; Khalsa and the Church

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Submitted by Ravi Ranjan Singh BharatPanthi (India), Oct 23, 2010 at 15:42

West must realize JIHAD IS A WAR, EVER-GOING; NOT AGAINST WEST, OR ONLY WEST.

It is as much against East, if not more.

Unfortunately, Jihad got attention of West only after, the heat was unbearable for West.

On other hand The East, especially Bharat that is India, bore the burnt for centuries.

Westerners please understand this clearly Jihad is not at against West, it is as much against East, in fact against humanity.

Now human race has to fight it out, jointly.

You need to know, how Jihadis overran India? How and why Sikhism was formed? Why & How were Sikhs tortured to death for not accepting Islam? Why Jihadis still consider Sikhs as enemy no.1 and Potential Danger/Death?

To Stop Jihad, west should do what Sikhs did Centuries back, and remember that time Sikhs were outnumbered, out of power, had no Nation or State, they were on run, individual properties confiscated, having Price and Prize for their Head.

Still, how handful of Sikhs overthrew Mughals the Mighty?

Chased Jihadis right up to their burrows in Afghanistan, took over Kabul, Kandhar, Jalalbad, made them sign 'Document of Repentance and Apology' for their, and their forefathers deeds.

Sikhs made Afghans wear Salwar Kamiz the dress of women( who were seen as lowly creatures/slave by Jihadis of that time) and was against their tenet, considered as humiliation to great warriors.

Why they were forced for wearing women dress is interesting. Pathans mercenaries tried to escape, disguised themselves as women by putting on Burqua and Salwar Kamiz under it. Because Sikh commander-in-chief Hari Singh Nalwa ordered his men 'no rape, no molestation, no harm to women or children'.

Too fool Sikhs their men tried to pass as women, but made fool of them as they were caught. Like Head of Red Mosque did in Lahore couple of years back.

Hari Singh gave them choice either to fight like a man, or to declare them self unmanly thus avail concessions for women. But these concessions had a condition that this concession is valid only to those who dress like women.

Afghans had to digest it, irony is, it latter it became part of their life, and now it is their 'National Dress'.

Arabs still taunt Afghans as women/unmanly ,homos and Kafir on Salwar issue.

What were military and other strategies and strength of the Sikhs?

What can we learn from Sikh history?

Imagine how deadly the impact of Islamic Rulers was on India, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh; that a new religion/Panth came into being as retaliation.

Sikhs suffered but never surrendered, again six decades back Bharat was tragically partitioned.

Partition of India is a tragedy. But the greater tragedy is, it was not partitioned as Muslim India and Hindu India or Muslim India and Non-Muslim India, but as Exclusive Muslim India that is now Pakistan and Shared Secular India. In other words Muslims got one Muslim Monopoly or Darul-Islam Country Pakistan and other Bharat (India) where they are again equal Partners.

Hindus, Sikhs, Christians & Buddhists got one country to be shared amongst themselves and Muslims as equal Partners.

It was Victory of Jihad; went unnoticed. And the Greatest Tragedy is that it was projected as win-win situation for

both Muslims and non-Muslims by Gandhi and his sponsors and former Colonial Masters The British.

It like after 50 years their are riots in US and it is decided that half of US is Islamic and other half is common, and termed as Win-Win Justice to both Islamists and Christian, Jews, aboriginals.

Busy in celebrating or reconciling WW IInd the west could not realize Jihad that has taken Place.

An Independence that has been tricked into, at cost of Millions of life, transfer of 10s of Millions of citizens on basis of religion(in a very intelligible manner favoring Jihadis) and seeds of another Jihad/Partition left in Secular India(hidden in grab of Liberal/left Hindu culture/Secularism).

It was Win-Win Situation in fact, but for Jihadis the new Rulers of Pakistan and their (natural Partners) Establishment of Secular India. Jihadis got a full-fledged Nation State Pakistan and another Nation State called India in which they became Equal Partners.

India's new and incompetent leaders also felt as winners because (a) got rid of their competitors in power, especially Jinnah who could outsmart Indian Leaders (incompetent and imposed by British)

The ringleader of these incompetent, imposed and bogus leaders wanted himself to be written as apostle of Love in history and he succeeded in it. He fooled the world that time and the world is still fooling itself by believing that agent, powerbroker, Jihad-Sympathizer and veiled Jihadi as SAINT.

He was probably also aspiring for Noble Prize, his followers who are in still in absolute power in India are still trying get Noble Prize for him posthumously.

As expected in six decades population of Non-Muslims that was more than 20% in Pakistan diminished to less than 3%. The reason is Jihad, Convincing the gullible, concession/ indulgence to willing, terrorizing the sensible, forcing upon challenger the killing the defiant. Population of Bangladesh a State that had latter fallen apart from Pakistan, had more than 35% Hindu Population, now has less than 7% Hindus.

Where as Muslim Population of Bharat (India) that was <10% after Partition, is now any thing between 15 to 25%.

The Game of Demography Jihad, lost by Bharat (India) and followers of Indigenous Dharam/Panths (Religions) and other foreign originated Religions as Christians (of course now these religion are as much part of India as Indigenous Religions/Panths).

Furthermore, Zoroastrianism is condemned in its country of origin, Iran and is respected in Bharat.

Taking advantage of its religious tolerance was and is exploited by Jihadis.

Off course some Christians Missionaries are also doing the same, but its overzealousness of some Christian denominations, Churches and individuals behind it.

However, Holy Bible can not be held responsible for acts of these Missionaries. No Christian Governments are budgeting the conversion racket actively or remotely promoting it.

The damage done by these Missionaries to Indigenous Dharma/Religion are:

1. The converts are uprooted from their roots, cut of from their folks and there is mistrust between neo-converts and parental community.

2. They identify themselves with alien faith, that they hardly understand but they are alienated from motherland. These neo-Converts in turn convert more aboriginals, Tribals, poor, disadvantageous victims. They use every method from 'planted miracles' to glorifying false stories about Jesus to draw analogies with Hindu Gods. Animal, fallible gods of primitive, lowly, colonized Hindu Race. Now these neo-converts.

3. Once the neo-converts are anti-Hindu, they identify Jihadis as lesser enemy or even friends or as discriminated cousins.

4. The neo-convert in turn are extremely dedicated, carried away, sometimes because of own reasons and most of the time to prove their loyalty to their White/brown Masters. New converts they keep inventing Christianity and have created a Indianized Pagan-Christianity, thus are corrupting Christianity.

5. So the false Christianity is doing harm to soul of Christianity and the genuine peace loving Missionaries also get maligned are looked as mischief monger by Proud others so the harmony is disturbed.

6. Much of Christian and Hindu force is spent contending each other, like Jews and Christians or Catholic and Protestants often do. This dilutes their energy to fight Universal Evil the Jihad.

Back to History:

The slaughter on Bharat (India) started much before that of West, Right from 714 AD.

Though 'Test Fire' Skirmish took place decades before major onslaught.

Now how did Bharat Survive, and is still going strong is a study case for West.

The struggle of the Hindus to resist the Jihadi aggression into India was spread over a period of 600 years from 715 AD. Up to 1328 Ad. This contrasts with the swift Muslim victories in Persia (Iran) over the Zoroastrian Sassanians and in Mesopotamia, Egypt and North Africa over the Romans (Byzantines). The Muslims could not subjugate India with ease. And even after subjugating different parts of the country, they were never able to rule it entirely.

The next 400 years from 1328 up to 1720 was marked by a valiant and ceaseless struggle for independence by Hindus to deliver India from Muslim tyranny. The Hardest hit was blown to Jihadis by Sikhs, when Muslim power was at peak. When they were a superpower and believed to be invincible.

Rajputs and Gujjars opposed them first as they were attacked first. Latter Jats opposed them, Tribals and almost every community opposed them in India.

But the role of Sikhs is a special study case and source of inspiration.

As Sikhs did not just fought Jihadis for themselves, and by themselves only, they were especially created, to end the tyrant.

The Sikhism Started with Guru Nanak, He opposed the mighty aggressor Babur single handedly. He called him 'Jabbar 'meaning tyrant/cruel right at his face.

Later Guru Arjun Dev was tortured to death for not accepting Islam.

The story of Last Sikh Guru Govind Singh begins. Aurangzeb the Emperor was most intolerant Sunni Jihadi. To him Sufis and Shias were also infidels. In intoxication of his power he was killing Hindus on refusal to convert to Islam.

Kashmir being the centre of learning and Land of learned (Brahmans) was his special area of interest as he believed converting intellectuals is more useful and easy. Disappointed, helpless Brahmins of Kashmir met Guru Teg Bhadur father of Last Guru with a hope. After discussions with them Guru Teg Bhadur sent a message to Aurangzeb that "all Hindus especially Kashmir Brahmins will embrace Islam willingly, provided you convince me and convert me".

This was a heartening development for Aurangzeb. By just converting one man he will get paradise, 72 Virgins. Guru visited Delhi; he was made to converse with Quazi. Kazi said Idol worshiping and ringing of bells to please God is a sin. Muslims don't do it, and we must finish these idol worshipers.

Guru said I don't worship Idols nor believe in bells and I am against this ritual. Kazi asked why are you siding with them, if its so? Guru said I don't have right to kill someone if does not believes in what I believe. I am for freedom first.

Not being able to convince Guru , his companions were brutally tortured before him to terrorize him. But he did not budge an inch. Finally Guru Teg Bhadur was also put to Death.

This was the turning point in the history. After beheading him Kazi announced in this land of Kafirs anyone who calls himself a Hindu, may come forward and pick your Kafir Guru's head. There was crowd of thousands and most of them were Hindus. But no one dare to come forward. That was declared end of Hinduism. However, there was a dust storm, taking advantage of it one man cleverly managed to smuggle out his head.

He took his head straight to Punjab after traveling for nearly three days. He narrated the whole story to Guru Teg Bhadur's son and the next and last Sikh Guru. "No one could dare to affirm himself Hindu though they were thousands of them".

Son of Beheaded Guru and the last Guru of Sikhs Guru Govind Singh said 'If Hindus can not dare say publicly that they are Hindus, that really means Hinduism has now ceased to exist. Private, in house rituals done secretly are not going to last long. One must have courage to affirm his or her faith openly otherwise let's disown our respective faiths. Timid should be turned into Soldier'.

So Guru Govind Singh gave Sikhs a sign, bearing which, he can not shy away from the fact that he is a follower of his faith. And that sign is his "Hair'; a turncoat can not be a Sikh.

If you are a Sikh, you are a thorough Sikh, Sikh inside and Sikh outside. No scope escapism. Your enemy knows you, be ready to face it; otherwise you don't be a Sikh rather you can't be. That is it.

This boldness and direct challenge is the only answer to Jihad, to radicals, to oppressor, to mad lunatics.

No double-mindedness, I am what I am. I am here to save humanity, old or young, sturdy or fragile but I am bold and strong; I am a Sikh. Sikh Slogans and addressing forms are 'Chardikala' meaning 'in high spirits'. Sikhs chant it even when injured or dying or even as captivity. 'Sat Sri Akal' meaning Truth shall prevail. 'Raj Karega Khalsa, aaki rahe na koy' Pure shall rule (not oppressors with worldly power) and there is no impediment in that.

Now whole Human race needs same firmness and zero tolerance against Jihadis. Guru TegBhadur did not die for his faith; he was not an Idol worshiper: he died for others faith and his principal and that is 'not to oppress and not to be oppressed'.

Know Sikhs, Support Sikhs, adopt their strategies.

Many opportunist Hindus also sided with Jihadis against Sikhs. As may opportunist Westerners are supporting Jihadis. The Jihadi Propaganda was so strong that at one time of time even Hindus started feeling that Sikhs are to inhuman to Jihadis, without realizing Human Rights for Right Humans only.

Recently Hindus started feeling Sikhs are no more their well wishers and some Sikhs also started distancing them self from their Hindu brothers. But in fact the bond between two communities is so strong that nothing can separate them.

So Sikhs just did not fight Jihadis, just for themselves but for Human Race. Sikhs realized the time bomb has not to be just neutralized, but diffused and dismantled and destroyed. Sikhs also did not fight just by themselves. From the very beginning they were extrovert, developing new relations and maintaining old ones, seeking new techniques, seeking and providing help from and to everyone who can defeat Jihadis.

Here continuing the Sikh Tradition I appeal to Whole Human Race to unite against Jihadis.

One question some people ask me is, are Sikhs Hindus?

No, they are not. I counter question them, is Butter Milk answer is here.

Butter is no milk but enhanced milk, but it is not milk. Yes, butter is milk because it originates from milk.

Butter is not possible without milk.

Why I am writing it to Christian West, You need Sikh (type)-Christians to be raised to counter onslaught of anti-human evil cult.

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