It is Britain not the USA that has abandoned treason

Submitted by Maggie (Australia), Aug 17, 2005 at 04:30

I have read some but not all of the comments. First of all, Daisy, you are one person who thinks very much in the same way as myself. I agree with your comments.

However, what I want to address is the way that there seems to be a misunderstanding about what constitutes treason and whether or not this is recognized in the USA or in the UK. My understanding is that the USA has not abandoned the concept of treason, and that in the recent past there have been quite a few people who have been charged with the crime of treason. This is specifically true for people who act as spies for foreign governments, and who pass to the spies of those governments documents that can compromise the security of one's country.

Also, there are prisoners in Guantanamo Bay, such as David Hicks the Australian, who are facing charges of treason because they were captured whilst fighting with the enemy. Yes, Al Qaeda is the enemy of all of us, and we should not think of them in any other way.

It would seem that as far as the USA is concerned the crime of treason is alive and well. Now the article written by Dr. Pipes was addressing the situation in Great Britain and not the USA. In Great Britain, as one correspondent (who like myself is part-Irish and part-Scots, and born elsewhere)has correctly stated the charge of treason is a lot harder to prove and make it stick. The reason, as he pointed out is that the judiciary is full of woolly headed jerks. However, it is not just the judiciary that is at fault, for it is also the Public or Civil Service that must bear responsibility for this situation.

I posted on another thread some information regarding the attitude of Islamists in Great Britain. It should come as no surprise that the men who have been named are the ones who are preaching hatred towards the government of Great Britain. They preach in private and in public they make statements that have a double meaning. In other words it is very hard catching them in the act of inciting racial hatred (yes, the Islamists are the ones who are inciting racial hatred towards Britons) and extreme behaviour towards the Kaffur. Every single one of us who are not a part of Islam are Kaffur, and the same is true of every moderate Muslim who does not believe in engaging in these terror tactics. The lives of the moderate Muslims are also on the line, and in the eyes of these hardliners these people are also Kaffur, and therefore they are not innocent.

The British Government needs to forget all about continuing the disastrous multicultural experiment. It needs to revise her immigration policy and Great Britain needs to begin to restrict entry into that country, everyone who comes from a third world background where there has been an increase in Islamofacism in the past 30 years. Yes, it is time for a little bit of cultural profiling so that immigration is restricted against those who fit the profile of would be murderers. At the same time the British Government needs to take a keener interest in young British citizens of Pakistani origin who are in the habit of returning to Pakistan, since it is more than likely that these British-Pakistanis are involved with Islamofacism and that they are returning to Pakistan in order to attend a training camp.

I would suggest that the Australian Government should follow the same course of action. In fact I think it is high time that we returned to a modified White Australia policy and that potential immigrants from Lebanon, Syria, Pakistan, Sudan and several other third world countries are fully vetted before they are allowed to set foot into this country. We already have a problem with boat people who are not in fact refugees. One family claimed to be from Afghanistan and it turned out that they were from Pakistan. The potential for the Islamofacists to slip into this country as boat people is a present danger.

I have already mentioned David Hicks, the Australian who is awaiting trial in Guantanamo Bay. However, David Hicks is not the only Australian who has potentially committed treason against Australia. There are at least 5 former soldiers who have signed up with the enemy. One of them was recently seen on a video where he was using threatening language. Another Australian, Mahmoud Habib, a man of Pakistani origin has for the moment escaped the net. However, his comments after the July 7 bombing certainly suggest that he is involved in treason against Australia.

If they plot to kill the citizens of Australia, Great Britain and the USA then they are committing treason, for they have refused to obey their oath of loyalty to that particular country. Treason should remain a very serious offence for which one can be shot to death. (Treason is an exception where my opposition to the death penalty is concerned)

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