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Our dear Max revisited and al-qira'at al-sab3a

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Submitted by dhimmi no more (United States), Mar 27, 2011 at 15:37

So our dear Max whose Hindu ancestors were brutalized by Islam and who is a hafiz which in the lands of his masters the Arabs he would be no more than a Fiqi aka Fe'ee which is the lowest of the lowest among shiokh al-Islam and what a wasted life and brain cells as he spent his life memorizing a book that he cannot read in its primary language Arabic that is and he has no clue what this book really says and on top of this he has been told lots of lies as you shall see

And to add insult to injury he is no more than following in the path of his Hindu ancestors where the Brahmans (and he ain't no Brahman) memorize and also recite their holy books right our dear Max the lost tablighee? Oh there is more then our dear Max moves to England and why not Arabia? Could it be because a hafiz like you are a dime a dozen in the lands of your matsters the Arabs? And you know what? The Saudis have no respect for tablighees like you and they would hire a westerner or a Christian Arab before they would hire your likes! and why is that? Oh there is more and you must pardon me our dear max but the Saudis make fun of Indians and Pakistanis and they call them masakeen men (oh darn it transliteration!) el-hind wa el-bakistan and they make funny remarks about your food and body hygeine and odor that is not even nice! So why do you live in England? Could it be the welfare check or the free health care?

Shame on you

>no "rasulan"?

More comedy and ignorance

Now for the readers: Our dear Max is unaware that the so called Mullah Maududi wrote that:

"by obtaining a copy of the Qur'an from any book seller say in west africa and then have a hafiz (our dear Max is a lost hafiz) recite it from memory compare the two and then compare these with copies of the qur'an published through the centuries since the time of 3uthman if he detects any discrepancy in a single letter or syllable he should inform the whole world of this great discovery"

These are the words of this big time fraud called Maududi right our dear Max?

Oh there is a book published by your masters the Arabs called "Mu3jam al-qira'at al-quraniyya" and do you know what you will find in such book? this book lists 10000 variants and at least 1000 variants in the rasm or the words of your Allah! Do you know what this means? it means that there cannot be one standard reading by a Fiqi of the Qur'an! How come that Maududi did not know that?

For the readers again we are told in the islamic historical tradition that were sab3at ahruf aw qira'at (read this as seven readings/recitations) and the 3Uthman burnt all except one and that is the 1923-1924 Cairo Qur'an and what a scandal 3Uthman burnt the words of Allah!

But that is not all we are also told that the Qur'an we have in in lughat Quriash or the accent of Quriesh! And now our dear max has been told by me that the way we use vowles stems from the way that we use vowels in our mother tongue so it is very strange that less than 20 years the issue of multiple readings of the Qur'an was a real concern unless such tradition is very late when many non Arabs joined islam and they brought with them their own use of vowles which means that such al-qira'at al-sabi3a is really an anachronistic tradition and no one had a clue about what the Qur'an is really saying and the end results were those seven readings! and so much for the bogus hadith!

So what happened to the other six qira'at mr Einstein? Did a hungry gaot eat them as it did with ayat al-rajm? What a joke

You did not not understand a single word our dear Max right?

Oh there is more for the readers again we have TWO transmissions of the Qur'an that we have and they are

1. The Cairo Qur'an 1923-1924 and it is Hafs 3an 3Asim

2. The 1969 Tunisian Qur'an and it is the Warsh 3an Nafi3

And they are indeed different and here are a few examples and this is an open book examination our dear Max whose Hindu ancestors were brutalized by Islam

1. MLK in Surat al-Fatiha is it Maaliki or is it Maliki?

2. Q8521-22 MHFZ is it Mahfuzun or is it Mahgfuzin (you can also read it with a fatiha) so which one is it when you recite the book of ignorance?

3. In surat al-ikhlas is it kufuwan or kufu'an ya Fiqi?

4. And Q3;120 is it yadirkum or is it yadurru-kum?

And these are only four examples

So you think Maududi did not know? But in this case he would be ignorant! Or you think that he knew and he was hoping that lost tablighee like you will believe his BS? What do you think? And how can we get in touch with him to let him know? Oh I forgot he is in Allahs heaven enjoying the 72 virgins or is he enjoying Allah's ghulman like Mohamed Atta who was not really into virgins?

>Why o Why?

So you tell us Mr Why O Why why is VOCALIZED as Rasulin and also rasulan? any guesses?

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7What is my concern? [308 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 8, 2011 06:14181529
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4Islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and this is what the Qur'an says [197 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 17, 2011 06:29181529
Repetitions [117 words]Amin RiazFeb 19, 2011 14:00181529
5Islam is the religion of the Hijazi Arabs only and this is what the Qur'an says part deux [435 words]dhimmi no moreFeb 21, 2011 18:28181529
quick query to dhimmi no more [28 words]maximillionMar 2, 2011 19:22181529
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14to dhimmi no more ... [121 words]maximillionMar 4, 2011 22:04181529
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5I cannot wait for this one either [258 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2011 08:19181529
11our dear Max is asking me to look up the meaning of a perfect Arabic word in an English language dictionary! I call this ignorance [130 words]dhimmi no moreMar 6, 2011 10:20181529
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