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Submitted by Charles Reinderhoff (Netherlands), Apr 27, 2014 at 12:40

Myth, in regard on your post here is my reply:

On your first point regarding taboos in the Netherlands, I could agree with that. Regarding the fleeing of the Dutch government and the royal family to England, it is not so much a taboo over here as that it is generally regarded as a matter of fact situation triggered by the circumstances. It is not really a point of discussion anymore, as most Dutch have a ever declining historical knowledge of what really happened all those years ago. Many young people even have problems placing Adolf Hitler in a specific timeline. This is due to the waning teachings in school on history in general. Only very recently has this problem been addressed but solutions are still in it's infancy.

I agree with your point of view that the political elite largely turns a blind eye to the growing problems regarding muslim immigration specifically. That is why Mr Wilders party is growing. As long as there is no broad government view on this problem, Wilders popularity will become larger. The reason most political parties are afraid of specifically targeting muslim immigration as the cause of much of the many tensions in Dutch society, has it's roots in what happened to the Jewish population in WW2 in the Netherlands. This of course, is not only extremely hypocritical, bordering on malicious behavior, but it displays a revolting political cowardice, which has growing and far reaching consequences.

On the Dutch Fascist party NSB: here, there is a lot less taboo going on the last years. More books and documentaries are being presented on this, explaining why the Dutch fascist started to have such a following. You are right that in the beginning, the NSB did not have a specific anti Jewish view. This only came later. especially during the occupation.

On criminality within Turkish and Morroccan immigrants: both groups total about 350.000 people at the moment. Though both groups are well represented in crime statistics, the Morroccans are by far the largest. One of the reasons could be, that most Morroccon immigrants belong to a specific ethnic group, the Berbers, which are known for some specific character traits, one of which is a strong anti-establishement and anti-autoritarian stance, which stems from long standing confrontation and persecution within Morrocco. These traits could still be very volatile within the immigrant groups abroad, although the appeasing approach of local (Dutch) government also must play a role in this.

As to Mr Wilders electorate: the biggest following is based in the more densely populated area's, specifically the bigger cities of course. Although that is changing fast, as muslim immigrants also populate smaller cities and towns these days.

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