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Europe and Islamic Trojan Horse agitatorsReader comment on item: Something Rotten in Denmark? Submitted by Mick, son of a brave WW2 soldier who fought for freedom. (United Kingdom), Aug 28, 2002 at 09:39 Interesting article.The problem runs much deeper, however . Here in the UK there is already a strong undercurrent of frustration as the government, local and national, try to buy their way out of the potential civil war that is threatening us all in the not too distant future. We all have seen the riots in the UK recently, Bradford etc., the apologists blame right wing groups, but those of us who are closer to the problem realise that something most insidious is fermenting within our "free" societies. Governments are buying temporary respite from a grim situation: the message is hammered out by most newspapers and politicians that our way of life will survive by giving ever more exemptions and concessions in the form of money, benefits, and freedom to campaign without interference to the constituents of that "religious " grouping that you mention. In London, "Islamic" groups speak in terms of our Societies' destruction by whatever means is expedient. At the moment the Islamists believe that in a few more years in the UK they will achieve a demographic density that will enable them to gain ever more power through the ballot box. A similar modus op. is the current thinking of Sinn Fein in Northern Ireland. Already the Police are at the breaking point in that strife- torn place. The concessions given (including representation in their own Parliament) have actually led -- not to a resolution of the problems -- but to an exacerbation and intensity of "war" at the street level. The whole of Europe is at risk of usurption of our Democracies from within and without. The people that our MI5 say they have "under observation" know full well that our weak immigration controls are a revoving door to any one wishing access to the whole of Europe. If these groups cannot achieve their ambitions of control and power by "peaceful" means, I do not believe that it will stop at that point. The only solutions we have available to control mass rioting, random bombing etc. may impinge dramatically on the "indigenous" Europeans' freedoms with the resulting collapse of much of our free trade and the very liberties that so many of our fathers and mothers gave their lives for just sixty years ago. If this is an acceptable option then the blind will continue leading the blind until it is too late for our governments to turn the situation around. International treaties and civil rights legislation designed after the holocaust to protect our hard won freedoms of speech, religion, belief and travel, are viewed as weaknesses to be exploited by these new "fifth columnists" or "trojan horse" groups of agitators. ... As you know, it is "trendy" here to belittle that Great People who though certainly not faultless in terms of prolific energy consumption (and until recently,) their inward looking self -protecting view of the World,... but when "push comes to shove" there will be few other non-European states able or willing to assist us in a crisis. Where will the Masses look then, when and if they are shaken from their daydreaming slumber? If it is toward the Far Right they look, then who knows the consequences of that myopic vision. There is no doubt that the weakness of our Politicians is letting our societies slide toward a precipice, and faced with that what do we see happen? Those of with enough resouces buy a place in Spain, France, Portugal,.. anywhere that seems to offer an escape from the snarling combatants for the dominance of our inner cities. It is very evident in my own location, with property prices at an all time high, tens of thousands of good citizens are selling up or renting their houses and heading for more "safer" Towns, or the Spanish Costas, or rural France, leaving behind those less fortunate or willing to move, and in their wake, a rising tide of mainly muslim Afghan, Somalian, Congolese, Sudanese, Bosnian, Albanian etc etc peoples, who generally are politely ignored or generally left to do whatever they do without hindrance and paid for by the Home Office and Social Security. This of course is very laudable, we have a tradition of helping desperate people. Truth is, that most are not escaping Genocide, they are mainly "economic migrants." They are also among the better off of their kinsfolk as the majority have paid smuggling gangs substantial sums to obtain transit here. These same smugglers and gangsters care not for their charges welfare and it is reported that these same are involved in the importation of much of the illegal substances that are dragging our youth into crime to obtain substances of addiction. Our politicians are aware this is the case, but what actions do they take? Amongst the many who are glad to leave behind the intolerance of other regions there are many thousands to whom militant Islamists will offer their form of racist indoctrination against us, their friendly but foolish hosts. And what silence there is, publicly, from within the large and settled Moslem Community of good morals and hard working reputation. Caught between a rock and a hard place, they will be faced with difficult choices should these dire predictions unfold upon Englands pastures green. What are the answers proposed by our Members of Parliament, that bastion of free speech, that might preserve and promulgate our Liberty? They turn away and tell us there is no problem. I think the answer lies in the old saying,.. "There are none so blind as those that wish not to see." It is also a result of the cowardice of politicians to place themselves in potential peril. They make all the politically correct noises, patch up the obvious problems and then scuttle off to their holiday homes and enjoy those priveleges they award themselves whilst in power. Should they not get re-elected, then a nice job on the Board of Directors of a Company or a non-elected European consultation advisory commitee will suit them nicely. Ah well, they are only human, I suppose. However this kind of self seeking politician that seems to riddle European politics, (take a look at our own Neil Kinnock and family) ... have caused the voting numbers to drop to an all time low, whilst surveys indicate a massive disenchantment with politics and politicians. This sad situation is the perfect recipe for two things: .The potential hijack of Democracy by non-democratic groups through the ballot box, and the rise of the Far Right as the vacuum of disenchantment sucks the majority (currently) population towards Parties that offer a "quick fix" solution... Note: Opinions expressed in comments are those of the authors alone and not necessarily those of Daniel Pipes. Original writing only, please. Comments are screened and in some cases edited before posting. Reasoned disagreement is welcome but not comments that are scurrilous, off-topic, commercial, disparaging religions, or otherwise inappropriate. 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