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Submitted by SULTAN (Turkey), Oct 23, 2005 at 15:45

I am not representing all the Turks but ı think I am representing the majority. It is an honour for me to be a muslim. Before listening your words about islam, I look at myself and my surroundings.There is not a single sign of encouraging racism or terrorism in the way we practice our religion .and I have not met one single person in whole my life who thought of using islam criminally to harm others. Why should ı take your words on myself. You may not respect or believe it but to condemn islam must be a sin in your religion also since you hurt so many peoples feelings (and vice versa of course). all the words stated against islam are empty and artificial.

however it is a fact that many countries are understanding this religion wrongly which we wont follow their way. saudis and iranians have to defend their rather strange islam understandings themselves not we. And if they dont change their look to islam they will always live in the past and never develop and maybe will be called terrorists. seeing islam as a concrete single block is a christian racism.You have to mention the name of the country you are accusing. ı cannot accuse venezuella and america together using the argument that they are both christians.We mostly see ourselves first humans than Turks than muslims. for you all blacks no matter from which country are the same. Like all muslims the same.

About Armenian tragedy, maybe I am misunderstood. I am not proud of the clearing of Armenian culture from anatolia. I wish whatever happened would never have happened.and we were still living together. İn fact ı have great sympathy to them. Today I have many armenian customers. An armenian is definitely much closer to me than a saudi. you cannot differ an armenian than a turk. Our food ,music, look is very alike. And their story is sad. However, we definitely did not commit a genocide. You see armenians as a historic culture and one of the oldest christian culture and dont even want to listen why we Turks object to this issue so fiercely.

We lived together with them peacefully and happily for 900 years.bthey were everywhere and in every city.bsultans were marrying armenians,gnenerals,architects artists were armenians. turks were extremely mixed with them so much that we dont look like like our original oriental Turkics any more. armenians on the contrary of greeks were really very close to Turks.So for 900 years we were not barbaric but suddenly decided to massacre them. Do you think this is logical . İf west is a high civilization then you must stop listening only the super working armenian diaspora all over the world. I hope someday some real examination of this subject can be done by objective scholars.Concrete proofs are needed instead of exagerrated numbers and stories of Armenian elders.

We are saying we suffered in those days a lot also. My mothers fathers and uncles were killed in the mosque by greeks. Armenian terrorists killed in recent years more than 50 Turkish diplomats all over the world. İn 1915 april which is the so called genocide date turks fought at exactly the same time with australians and new zealanders in the west at gallipoli in one of the worlds most bloody war. We lost millions, half of our population in the arabic lands against england (and yes, arabs also stabbed us from the behind). And when armenians rebelled in the east with again englands provocations it triggered it all.They were forced to leave todays Turkey. yes very bad things happened at this period but there was a complete chaos in all over anatolia. All the crimes were commited against to the sultans orders. İf some nation is going to be condemned this is england (todays america) not turkey.

but ı cant change your ...minds. you would prefer us not to win and wish to see historic christian armenia in place of us. this is why you can even dare to compare us with hitlers germany.what can I say. Allah bless all of you.
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